Zero2Cool
11 years ago

Green Bay – Some sports psychologists will tell you a little bit of adversity is good. It can be a rallying cry. A focal point. It can develop coping skills.

But too much, and too much of it at once, can be too much to overcome.

Are the Packers facing that right now?

Consider what Matt Flynn was up against when he came in the third quarter at quarterback.

It wasn’t just that he is the fourth quarterback to play for the Packers since Aaron Rodgers got hurt, after Seneca Wallace and Scott Tolzien.

It was that he was totally new to the new Packers.

How many snaps did he get this week in practice?

“I think I got four snaps with the regular offense calling the plays,” said Flynn.

Now, left tackle David Bakhtiari – a rookie – dealt with this at Colorado.

“In college, I had like three quarterbacks in one game,” he said.

So he knew what he had to do as soon as Flynn was called in to action. And it wasn’t a question about a big touchdown throw to win the game.

“As soon as I heard he was going in, I said ‘hey, let me hear your cadence,’” said Bakhtiari. “’Because everyone talks differently. Let me just hear you talk.’ Because when I’m out there, away and even home, I pretty much hear the least. I mean, the wide receivers can’t hear anything. But as an offensive lineman, I can only pick up a few sounds. I had to make sure I knew we were on the same page.”

That’s why Flynn took some of the responsibility for the false start penalties on the offensive line at what seemed to be the worst possible time.

“My operation in the no huddle needs to get better,” said Flynn. “Its kind of tough on those offensive linemen, we’re in a two-minute mode, no huddle and they’re listening to me call the snap count. It’s something I’ve got to work on because I’m not going to sit here and say all those false starts are on them. It’s a tough situation when they’re hearing a completely new snap count.”

Flynn said he was still confident, and he felt the Packers were in him, too.

“I was fired up to go in, I was ready. I told Mike (McCarthy), ‘here’s the plays I’m comfortable with and let’s go at it,’” said Flynn. “I was proud of the guys for fighting. I don’t know how many we were down when I came in but the looks from people’s faces in the huddle, I don’t think there was any doubt that we would win.”

Added Clay Matthews when asked about the comeback led by Flynn: “I’m not going to call it hope, but there’s something to look forward to right there, that our offense can put points on the board.”

And A.J. Hawk: “People talk about it all the time – he’s a gamer. He knows how to win. I think of a guy like Eddie Lacy that comes from those huge college programs that know how to win, they’re good, smart football players. And there’s something to that.”

"We overcame adversity, we showed a lot of heart out there to come back, on offense and defense, to force overtime,” said Lacy.

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play2win
11 years ago
It was a remarkable comeback yesterday by Flynn and the Packers. No question he was the spark. Smart of Bakhtiari to ask him his cadence. I just can't believe Flynn only got 4 snaps in practice. Wow. Makes me wonder if this coaching staff is going the extra mile to see that we win games. To better insure that we win… ???
dhazer
11 years ago
The Main thing being missed here is we didn't win the game, plain and simple we did not win so it was not a comeback. Why did Mike McCarthy let Tolzein pick his plays instead of run on 1st and 2nd downs and then run 5 yard routes when you need 10 yards. I still say we let Tolzein and Flynn finish out the season and play some of the other guys in contract years. If the season ended today we would have the 18th pick but if we lose another 2 games we would probably have a top 10 pick or even a top 6 pick. I say we play for next year because we don't stand any chance to make a run against the likes of the Panthers, 49ers, Seahawks or Saints ( hell their game against the Cowboys would be a close game compared to us)
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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play2win
11 years ago

The Main thing being missed here is we didn't win the game, plain and simple we did not win so it was not a comeback. Why did Mike McCarthy let Tolzein pick his plays instead of run on 1st and 2nd downs and then run 5 yard routes when you need 10 yards. I still say we let Tolzein and Flynn finish out the season and play some of the other guys in contract years. If the season ended today we would have the 18th pick but if we lose another 2 games we would probably have a top 10 pick or even a top 6 pick. I say we play for next year because we don't stand any chance to make a run against the likes of the Panthers, 49ers, Seahawks or Saints ( hell their game against the Cowboys would be a close game compared to us)

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Well, being it was a tie, we did make a pretty remarkable comeback to avoid the loss. That is fact.

I hear you dhazer on what will become of our season should we even make the playoffs. However, I didn't think we stood a chance in 2010. Not at all. Beating PHI and ATL the way we did to advance. Those were remarkable wins, and Rodgers led the way. Should Rodgers return ready to go for DAL in 3 weeks, and we are able to stack a couple of wins v. DET and ATL, we may have a real shot at doing something good. If we do win out, that would mean we are playing some good football, and we would be one of the hottest teams going into the playoffs.

Can't just write that off. If we can get our D back on track like they were prior to Rodgers' injury, we could be OK.

Back on topic, it was pretty heads-up for the rookie, Bakhtiari, to ask Flynn for his cadence. It is a shame he didn't get more reps during the week leading up to the game for EDS and Lang to have a better handle on that. Might have helped us get the W. I blame that on McCarthy and the staff. Have ALL of your guys ready.

I'm not seeing the extra work by this staff, at all. Where is it? Where is the planning and preparation to give us the best chance to win?
nerdmann
11 years ago

The Main thing being missed here is we didn't win the game, plain and simple we did not win so it was not a comeback. Why did Mike McCarthy let Tolzein pick his plays instead of run on 1st and 2nd downs and then run 5 yard routes when you need 10 yards. I still say we let Tolzein and Flynn finish out the season and play some of the other guys in contract years. If the season ended today we would have the 18th pick but if we lose another 2 games we would probably have a top 10 pick or even a top 6 pick. I say we play for next year because we don't stand any chance to make a run against the likes of the Panthers, 49ers, Seahawks or Saints ( hell their game against the Cowboys would be a close game compared to us)

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Fuck that shit.

We're a half game back.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
sschind
11 years ago

It was a remarkable comeback yesterday by Flynn and the Packers. No question he was the spark. Smart of Bakhtiari to ask him his cadence. I just can't believe Flynn only got 4 snaps in practice. Wow. Makes me wonder if this coaching staff is going the extra mile to see that we win games. To better insure that we win… ???

Originally Posted by: play2win 



When you have a starter like Rodgers, Manning, Brees, Brady etc. the backups hardly get any reps. When you have a backup to a backup as your starter then his backup certainly isn't going to get any reps. Your starter needs the reps unless he is one of the established ones and even then they get most of them.

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