Zero2Cool
11 years ago
Mike McCarthy, asked by @RobDemovsky if Bulaga could play with a torn ACL: "The decision hasn't been finalized. He's looking at all his options."

Apparently Bryan Bulaga wants to play, regardless of the torn ACL and Bulaga says he feels fine.
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DoddPower
11 years ago

Mike McCarthy, asked by @RobDemovsky if Bulaga could play with a torn ACL: "The decision hasn't been finalized. He's looking at all his options."

Apparently Bryan Bulaga wants to play, regardless of the torn ACL and Bulaga says he feels fine.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



If it's truly a torn ACL, that's sounds like a horrible idea. I doubt he would be very effective, and would expose himself to further injury. If it is only a slight tare vs. a fully torn ACL, I guess I could get that. Allow some time for it to mostly heal back up, and make a late season push. Otherwise, I can't imagine someone playing with a fully torn ACL and being very effective, at all.

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11 years ago
Jason Wilde says : That's it for McCarthy. Takeaways: Bulaga still hasn't given up on playing with torn ACL


"Bryan wants to give it a go... He doesn't even look like he's injured. It's one of those plays you don't really understand." says Mike McCarthy.
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texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
I suspected this when I read his father contacted Dr. Andrews. I've heard of this before - players at least finishing a season (a few games) with a true ACL. It would be a long shot, but who knows? There are certain kinds of injuries where the damage is done, and further normal repetition doesn't risk further damage. Whether this - an ACL - is in that category or not, I don't know. Put yourself in the guy's place - walking around with apparent full range of movement and no pain, being told to have surgery and be out for a year or so. What would be on your mind?
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11 years ago

Ligament injuries in the knee - such as an anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) -- are dreaded by professional and amateur athletes alike. They can be painful and debilitating. They can even permanently change your lifestyle.

But there's good news. While an ACL injury or other ligament damage once ended the career of many an athlete, treatment is much more successful now.

So what's behind these feared injuries? Ligaments are tough bands of tissue that connect the bones in your body. Two important ligaments in the knee, the ACL and posterior cruciate ligament (PCL), connect the femur or thigh bone with the tibia, one of the bones of the lower leg. But too much stress on these ligaments can cause them to stretch too far -- or even snap.

ACL injury and other ligament injuries can be caused by:

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  • Twisting your knee with the foot planted.
  • Getting hit on the knee.
  • Extending the knee too far.
  • Jumping and landing on a flexed knee.
  • Stopping suddenly when running.
  • Suddenly shifting weight from one leg to the other.[/list]

  • These injuries are common in soccer players, football players, basketball players, skiers, gymnasts, and other athletes.

    There are four ligaments in the knee that are prone to injury:

    [list]
  • Mentioned above, the anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) is one of the two major ligaments in the knee. It connects the thigh bone to the shin bone in the knee. ACL injuries are a common cause of disability in the knee. In the U.S., 95,000 people get them every year. They are more common in women than men.
  • The posterior cruciate ligament (PCL) is the second major ligament in the knee connecting the thigh bone to the shin bone in the knee.
  • The lateral collateral ligament (LCL) connects the thigh bone to the fibula, the smaller bone of the lower leg on the lateral or outer side of the knee.
  • The medial collateral ligament (MCL) also connects the thigh bone to the shin bone on the medial or in side of the knee. [/list]

  • What Does a Knee Ligament Injury Feel Like?

    An ACL injury -- or other ligament injury -- is sometimes hard to diagnose. Symptoms of a knee ligament injury are:

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  • Pain, often sudden and severe
  • A loud pop or snap during the injury
  • Swelling
  • A feeling of looseness in the joint
  • Inability to put weight on the point without pain[/list]

  • If they're not treated at the time, ACL injuries and other types of ligament injuries may act up months or years later. They can make your knee give out when you twist or pivot.

    To diagnose an ACL or other ligament injury, your doctor will give you a thorough exam. If your knee is swollen with blood, your doctor may use a needle to drain it. You may need X-rays, MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) scans, or other tests.



    there are 2 more pages on webMD 
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    texaspackerbacker
    11 years ago

    there are 2 more pages on webMD 

    Originally Posted by: wpr 



    That's what makes it such a mystery - Bulaga didn't seem to have any of those symptoms, not to any significant degree, and there have been other similar cases.


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    11 years ago
    This seems like, uh, a REALLY bad idea
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    11 years ago

    Logan Mankins played with a torn ACL... 

    Originally Posted by: Yerko 



    It would be a damn shame if this became an issue of liability instead of ability to play.


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    11 years ago

    It would be a damn shame if this became an issue of liability instead of ability to play.

    Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



    I would think playing with a torn ACL would put an enormous amount of stress of the other knee ligaments, the hamstring, the quad, and even the ankle. Mankins also eventually tore another ligament in the playoffs, I think. Overall, it would just seem like playing on a torn ACL would result in further injury to the knee, and a longer recovery time which could affect his availability next season. After all, if it's torn, surgery is inevitable anyway, right? If he waits until late in the season, he might not be healthy for training camp next season. Doesn't seem worth it to have a less than 100% Bulaga for this season, in which he probably wouldn't last the whole season anyway.

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