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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

With Greg Jennings gone, the Packers still have a strong trio of receivers.  As long as they are able to do the receiving on a consistent basis. For Randall Cobb, regarded by many as an up-and-coming star, too many balls are being dropped.  The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel counted 10 last season.  Per the Journal Sentinel,...

Mike Florio  wrote:


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11 years ago
Jersey Al  is weighing in on Cobb:

A trend has begun to emerge at training camp for the Green Bay Packers and if it carries over into September, the team’s high powered offense could be in trouble.

No, Aaron Rodgers has not suddenly started throwing passes into the bleachers at Ray Nitschke Field. One of his favorite targets however seems to be having difficulty hanging onto the football.

Randall Cobb led the team in drops in 2012 with 10 and the habit has carried over to this season thus far in training camp. According to Ty Dunne of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, Cobb has dropped at least four passes in competitive drills and the Packers are barely a week into camp. Many were concerned about tight end Jermichael Finley, but so far it’s Cobb with the bad case of butterfingers.


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11 years ago
JSonline  probably began the story and the others followed along.


Moments after lamenting errant shotgun snaps and one JV-level botched toss, coach Mike McCarthy was asked about Randall Cobb.

The Green Bay Packers wide receiver may be a rising star, a future All-Pro. But one problem from 2012 has spilled into the first week of training camp — the occasional bout of butterfingers.

Cobb? Drops? McCarthy swats the question away.

"Randall Cobb catches the football very well," McCarthy said. "He might drop a ball. I don't know if there's a concern. But it's something we spend a lot of time on. We need to catch the football better....I've never been part of a perimeter group that accepts anything less than being 100 percent, and that's what we're striving for.

"As far as Randall Cobb's evaluation of catching the football, he has very good hands."

Good enough hands to warrant continuous praise from Aaron Rodgers. The quarterback believes Cobb can be "a 100-catch guy." But for that to happen — year in, year out — Cobb will need to cut down his drops. Last season, according to statistics kept by the Journal Sentinel, Cobb had a team-high 10 dropped passes.


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11 years ago
I am not overly concerned about dropped passes. They do happen. If a player has a 100 receptions and drops 10 that isn't horrible. When the passes are dropped is more important.

On a third down 5 yard route over the middle when the team is down but driving the ball it is bad. Late in the game is not good. On a go route when they have a first down it is not as critical.
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DarkaneRules
11 years ago
In most cases it is mental, so I feel like drops come in batches for guys especially if they go over the middle a lot. There is a lot more chaos going on in there and it can break your concentration.
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earthquake
11 years ago
What a huge non-story.

Cobb lead the team in drops last year? Yeah, he also let the team in targets, catches, and yards as well. Surprising?

He also caught 78.6% of all passes throw to him, which is the 9th highest percentage league wide, and the highest by a WR.

I'll be concerned if the trend carries over into the games, until then, this is pretty shady journalism trying to make it look like Cobb had a problem with drops.
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11 years ago

What a huge non-story.

Cobb lead the team in drops last year? Yeah, he also let the team in targets, catches, and yards as well. Surprising?

He also caught 78.6% of all passes throw to him, which is the 9th highest percentage league wide, and the highest by a WR.

I'll be concerned if the trend carries over into the games, until then, this is pretty shady journalism trying to make it look like Cobb had a problem with drops.

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it is not so much shady as it is trying to invent stories to fill the papers. but it is a non issue.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago
Here's the TE and WR drop rates from ProFootballFocus.com.  2012dropsies.jpg You have insufficient rights to see the content.
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agopackgo4
11 years ago
Yeah I wouldn't get too bent out of shape over this one. If he's being targeted as much as he is he's going to drop some balls. It's like a baseball player... Whats more impressive? A guy with 100 at bats who has a .300 average? Or a guy who has a .300 average with 30 at bats?
buckeyepackfan
11 years ago
The drop pass is , IMHO, the dumbest stat ever created.

A guy gets his hand on a ball thrown behind him and almost makes an unbeiievable one-handed catch but doesn't quite come up with it, well that counts as a dropped pass.

As wpr stated, it's not how many but when some of these passes are dropped that really matters.

Then there is always the "what happens after" the dropped pass.
I go back to 2010 Superbowl, Jordy Nelson drops a pass over the middle that would have been a 1st down, the very next play is the play he catches the ball over the middle and almost scores.

That 2nd play probably would have never been called if the 1st play was good and The Packers were operating with a 1st down.

James Jones has had a few critical drops in his career.
Last year almost everything thrown at him he came up with.

In the course of a season, players are going to drop some passes, but, especially The Packer receivers since 2007, have evened a lot of the dropped passes out by making some unbelievable catches.

IMHO dumbest stat ever!!!!!
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