Zero2Cool
16 years ago

Please stop making excuses for Ryan Grant, he just is not what we had hoped he would turn out to be and hasn't played well at all under an Aaron run offense.

"twebdonny" wrote:



So now its Aaron's fault that Ryan Grant isn't making his cutbacks? It's Aaron's fault that the OL isn't consistently opening up holes for him?


I suppose I can buy into that. Do you have three tens for a twenty by chance? I mean, I assume by your logic that would be okay. ;)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

I am not saying it's Aaron's fault, just pointing out the obvious that Ryan has just not performed under a Roger's run offense and may never. IMHO I think a change of pace with a new starter at RB shoud be made.

"twebdonny" wrote:



I smell contradiction...
UserPostedImage
Greg C.
16 years ago
Ryan Grant's contract is big only because it is loaded with incentives, based on yards, number of carries, and stuff like that. For him to give less than a full effort would not be in his best interest at all. Most of the problem is that the offensive line is playing like garbage right now.
blank
millertime
16 years ago

Grant got his money. Thats all he wanted.

"IronMan" wrote:



he'll get more money if he plays well because he signed an incentive-laden contract
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
16 years ago

Barnett actually played pretty well.

"minnypacker" wrote:


He did get burnt by Dunn on a pass on the left side that could have been a short gainer and turned into big yards.

But 1 bad play can happen to anyone. Except Gregorious of course.
UserPostedImage
lambeauleaper
16 years ago
Here's the thing with Grant. Everyone was so enamored with his "big" 2nd half last year. By the time he came in and started for us, we were throwing like 75% of the time. 8 games into the season we had a good record and every Tom, Dick, and Harry with a pen was questioning how far we'd go based on our absolutely anemic run game. Enter Grant (who was option #4 at the time...more of a "well, let's give him a shot"). By then everyone was doing the opposite of stacking 8 in the box - they were solely playing the pass. Grant and the o-line built up some momentum and had some success....until it mattered (the NFCC). Grant was in the right place at the right time and scored big time with his contract. It sucks for us fans to realize now that he is (queue Denny Green) WHAT WE THOUGHT HE WAS...a castoff from the Giants. I mean, really, it wasn't suspicious that a team like the Giants with such World Beaters as Brandon Jacobs and Co. (/sarcasm) let Grant go for pocket change? Like they had no idea what they really had and we were some geniuses for knowing what Grant was capable of...even though we didn't even really play him for half the year? I know hindsight is 20/20, but this one isn't really that hard to figure out.
blank
all_about_da_packers
16 years ago

I am not saying it's Aaron's fault, just pointing out the obvious
that Ryan has just not performed under a Roger's run offense
and may never. IMHO I think a change of pace with a new starter at RB
shoud be made.

"twebdonny" wrote:



Against the Cowboys last year, under a "Rodgers run Offense" Grant had 15 touches for 98 yards and 2 TDs.

I'd call that a good performance.
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
all_about_da_packers
16 years ago

It sucks for us fans to realize now that he is (queue Denny Green) WHAT WE THOUGHT HE WAS...a castoff from the Giants. I mean, really, it wasn't suspicious that a team like the Giants with such World Beaters as Brandon Jacobs and Co. (/sarcasm) let Grant go for pocket change? Like they had no idea what they really had and we were some geniuses for knowing what Grant was capable of...even though we didn't even really play him for half the year? I know hindsight is 20/20, but this one isn't really that hard to figure out.

"lambeauleaper" wrote:



A castoff doesn't get you 200 + rushing yards and 3 TDs in a playoff game in December at Lambeau.

Grant has talent. He's having trouble with his vision at the moment. I think Grant's just pressing now, he isn't doing things naturally but trying too hard to make something happen when nothing is open. A little more patience, he just needs to get back into the thick of things.
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
buckeyepackfan
16 years ago
Grant may be struggling. but you can't put the blame on him, or the O-line.

How about a game plan that isn't so vanilla, that even the most uninterested fan in the stands knows what is coming.
Mike McCarthy needs to get his coaches together and either make some changes to the gameplan or make some changes on the coaching staff.

When everyone in the stadilum knows you are going to go into your "protective shell"and run on 1st down all you need to do is load up, which is exactley what happened when Grant fumbled. No excuse for the fumble, but let's mix it up a little and try to confuse the D a little.

Again those of you who are dumping on the defense, they don't deserve it.
The D may have given up some big yardage plays, but when it came down to crunch time, they made THE BIG PLAYS TO KEEP THE PACKERS IN THE GAME.

The problem being, a defense can only be on the field for only so much, before they need to get a break. The offense cannot sustain a drive, when it comes to "CRUNCH TIME", this has happened 4 weeks in a row, it is getting old real fast.

Hey MM, don't be afraid to mix it up a little and actually let your offense make a few plays through the air, even if it doesn't work, it's something different, what YOU ARE DOING NOW ISN'T WORKING!!!!!!

One last note...TT, nice decision cutting Jon Ryan, he might have taken 3 steps to punt the ball, but at least he could get it down the field!!!!
Ted Thompson = DUMBASS on that one.
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Cheesey
16 years ago
Good points Buckeye.
The play calling SUCKED.
Like i said in a different thread, i kept yelling at the TV....."1st down.......i wonder what RUN Mike McCarthy will call this time?"
Heck......I could have run the Tampa D yesterday and won. I knew what Mike McCarthy was going to call. It was more like a preseason game, like they didn't prepare at all.
UserPostedImage
all_about_da_packers
16 years ago
I strongly disagree with the criticism McCarthy is generating here.

Last year, when the players executed he was a genius. This year, when our execution and fundamentals have been piss poor, he's being unfairly criticized.

The coach's play calling isn't going to go from good to terrible in the course of one off-season. It's just that the execution is so bad that any play he calls results in a loss/minimal gain most of the time.

McCarthy has to get us to execute better on Offense, meaning block better, better route running, better catching.

Like McCarthy said, he can only put his players in a position to make plays, the players have to actually make the plays. The players aren't doing so, and McCarthy should be blamed for that.

But not for bad play calls.
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
Similar Topics
Users browsing this topic
Fan Shout
beast (24m) : Cowboys denied Bears request
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : From what I'm reading, MM is under contract through the 14th of January; after that he's free game
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : McCarthy let go or not extended??
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Chicago Bears have asked the Dallas Cowboys permission to interview Mike McCarthy for head coaching vacancy
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : The winners page that is
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : I was not hoping for that. It messes up the page lol
beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3.
beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3.
beast (6-Jan) : Thank you, and I was really opening we were going to get 4 or more tied for the top 3
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : congrats beast on 2024 !
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : congrats porky on winning 2023 pick'em! (oops sorry)
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : Packers have $60M+ of 2025 cap space on paper TODAY.
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Missed FG into a Lions TD; that'll do pig, that'll do
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : That might be it for the Vikings
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Oh so the refs do know what intentional grounding is
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : what the hell was that Goff?! Not much pressure and he just air mails it to Harrison
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : They really need to to get rid of the auto first down for illegal contact
Martha Careful (6-Jan) : watching the Vikings and Lions it's understandable why they swept the Packers. So much better product
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Even when GB got pressure he was throwing darts; vs no pressure on that last pass he just air mails an open guy
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : didn't have guys in his face ... pressure makes difference
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Where was this Darnold vs GB?
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : BALL DON'T LIE
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : how was that not a safety? Goff throws it at an offensive lineman
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Zero, I thought that was a given! ;)
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : Zero I looked through earlier and noticed the same thing. Bonkers year. I just wonder if beast put any money on games
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : I'm hoping for BLOODBATH. Pummel one another.
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : 8 people in pick'em would have won any year with their total lol
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : I'm rooting for the Lions to lose.
Mucky Tundra (6-Jan) : God help me but I'm rooting for the Vikings to...Vikings to...Christ I can't say it
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : 4 td for Rodgers
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : Chiefs got shutout
Zero2Cool (6-Jan) : Rodgers passes for 3rd TD. might be last game of an amazing career
Mucky Tundra (5-Jan) : "The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry."
Zero2Cool (5-Jan) : Owner ... love it
Zero2Cool (5-Jan) : Mayo was the guy they groomed for HC and one of the reasons they let Bill go.
Mucky Tundra (5-Jan) : Pats have the #4 pick, lots of cap space and Maye at QB; should fetch some attention
Mucky Tundra (5-Jan) : Well that didn't take long; Jerod Mayo out as Patriots HC
Zero2Cool (5-Jan) : I would expect it to be higher in favor of Eagles
Mucky Tundra (5-Jan) : Thst line seems...generous
Zero2Cool (5-Jan) : Eagles -3.5 over Packers in Wildcard Round
Mucky Tundra (5-Jan) : Did it though? Pokes beat the Commanders on the road with Cooper Rush previously
Zero2Cool (5-Jan) : That gives them their best chance
Mucky Tundra (5-Jan) : Cowboys starting Trey Lance at QB vs Commanders; GB vs Philly in the Wild Card incoming!
Mucky Tundra (4-Jan) : Stinks for Lloyd. Hoping he comes back strong for next year
Zero2Cool (3-Jan) : Packers placed Marshawn Lloyd on reserve non-football illness list
Zero2Cool (3-Jan) : Luke Getsy been helping Packers defense. He's former OC Bears/Raiders and our old QB coach
beast (2-Jan) : Thanks dfosterf, I'm still kicking myself for last week, as I forgot to change to pick Vikings and Lions... after putting in a holding spot.
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : First alternate: Elgton Jenkins Other alternates: Jordan Love, Kenny Clark, Keisean Nixon, Tucker Kraft, Josh Myers, Jaire Alexander
Zero2Cool (2-Jan) : Pro Bowl still a thing? Guess Packers have three. Jacobs, Gary, McKinney.
dfosterf (2-Jan) : It's a mine field with all the players sitting, etc
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
45m / Green Bay Packers Talk / packerfanoutwest

10h / Fantasy Sports Talk / wpr

10h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

7-Jan / Fantasy Sports Talk / Zero2Cool

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

6-Jan / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

6-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

5-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

5-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

3-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

3-Jan / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.