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DakotaT
Select Member

11 years ago

I just hope we don't piss away any more years of a future hall of fame first ballot quarterback dicking around with the positions of inadequate offensive lineman. I don't believe Marshall Newhouse and EDS have starting talent for NFL standards and they need to be replaced. I also question Lang's talent level as well, so switching him around constantly cannot be a good thing. We can get buy with Barclay at RT because he is very good at run blocking, but he may need a little help on the field in pass blocking. As for Sherrod, Tretter, and Bacteria - I hope they have the stuff it takes to get into the starting lineup very soon.

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#52

Rodgers isn't that much better than Cutler.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan

Whoooaaaah!

Take THAT BACK! 😆 😆 😆

A ballsy, stupidly ballsy (no harm intended my friend) statement by The QC to start our Saturday...

Pack93z
Select Member

11 years ago

#53

Cherry picking stats can prove any argument.

The OL makes up 5/11 of the starters on offense. Has our offense been bad? If half of the offense is coached this poorly, how can it possibly perform? Because our OL is decent.

Can it be better? Absolutely.

Packers had the #9 Passing team last year. Bears were 29th. Rodgers isn't that much better than Cutler.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan

Didn't cherry pick.. just grabbed the stats at the heart of the argument. We will just agree to disagree, no I don't think they were a pathetic line.. but they also didn't play up to their talents and year after year struggle in protection reads.

To me, that fall on coaching. You seem to think that isn't the root of the problem. Great.

And yes Rodgers is that much better than Cutler. And the difference isn't in physical talent.. it is in poise, patience and confidence. Cutler's biggest issues exist between the ears and behind the eyes. And it is a vast difference between them. And search my statements on Cutler over the years, this is not a new statement for this thread. [grin1]

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

#54

Just set the line, AND KEEP THE SAME 5 GUYS AT THE SAME 5 POSITIONS!!!

I'm fine with the moves as long as they don't decide midway through the pre-seaon that it's not working and start flipping guys around.

Know who your starters are, know who your backups are.

If and when an injury occurs, plug in the backup guy, don't start flipping your starters all over.

"The Jeff Saturday" experiment last year was one of the worst moves Ted has made.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Maybe in hindsight, sure, but the Jeff Saturday signing seemed to perk up most Packers fans - link .

Tezzy
Senior Member

11 years ago

#55

Easy to just say get better talent for the line to replace the left side. The Packers reality right now is the best talent was on the right side. I have no problem with seeing how this change goes. If you are going to do it, Bulaga and Sitton are about the best combo to try it. Bulaga obviously has plenty of years playing on the left side, and Sitton has good feet and a good enough athlete I won't be surprised if he maintains his level of play. No prediction that it will succeed or fail, but I like the chances for improved line play with this move.

On top of every beard grows a man.
"The Bears are shell-shocked... and it's breaking my heart."

wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#56

Maybe in hindsight, sure, but the Jeff Saturday signing seemed to perk up most Packers fans - link .

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I called it a "nice pickup". I did so because I assumed that Ted and Mike checked him out and knew that Saturday still had a lot left in the tank. [palm]

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

11 years ago

#57

More times than not, when there are problems across a position, it starts and possibly ends with the position coach.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

warhawk
Senior Member

11 years ago

#58

I was not expecting this. I wanted to see what they had at LT with Bulaga, but now Sitton. I hope they think this will make the team better. My opinion on this is they want to run to the left more.. Best run blockers on the team. And of course want to protect dat franchise. Time to see if Bulaga has what it takes.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon

I think the Guard change makes sense as well. Bulaga and Sitton have been playing next to each other for a couple of years now. Newhouse has been playing next to Lang.
What I see is the moves allowing the OL to become cohesive quicker than having to get used to the guy next to you. I think moving Bulaga to LT and leaving Lane next to him and having Sitton next to Newhouse or Sherrod would be more radical than what they are doing. Knowing the guy next to you and how you communicate is a huge part of a successful OL and I see these moves allowing that aspect to come along much faster.
I agree Bulaga is the key. If he can perform at a high level and these new RB's make a difference the overall OL play will be much improved and this is obviously the plan moving forward.

"The train is leaving the station."

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#59

I called it a "nice pickup". I did so because I assumed that Ted and Mike checked him out and knew that Saturday still had a lot left in the tank. [palm]

Originally Posted by: wpr

I'm sure they did check him out. He had a nice year prior and stayed pretty healthy. That's the risk with signing those older vets though. They can just go from a great season to over the cliff in 1 year.

sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

#60

Yeah, better late than never. Sure, it could have been attempted earlier, but it wasn't. They have got to do what they can from here, regardless of what has happened in the past. It's not ideal, but reality hardly ever is. At least now they have an entire off season and season to grow. I don't think Bulaga will be any worse than Newhouse at LT, and very likely much better. I also think Newhouse has the potential to be a very solid RT and will be much more valuable there than at LT. This move could definitely pay off, but there will be some growing pains.

Originally Posted by: doddpower

The only reason it is not ideal is because you are basically admitting that the right side of you line sucks and you are being forced into a drastic move. In reality this might be the ideal thing to do. Of course it might backfire big time as well. Time will tell.

What I don't get all the "should have done it from the beginning" type talk from some people. The beginning of what? As far as I am concerned this is the beginning. The draft is over and we pretty much know who we have to work with so the change was made. It would have been foolish to make the move prior to the draft because, playing the what if game, what if a stud left tackle would have fallen to use or the opportunity to move up to get one would have presented itself. If we had made the move we would have had to unmake it. It could have been done earlier but to me earlier would have been this time last year. It's not a move you make midseason or after training camp starts. You have to give your players the maximum amount of time to adjust and doing it now does that.

The more I think about it the more I like the move. If you are convinced that Sitton and Bulaga are our best linemen, and why wouldn't you be, and you know the players we have to work with why wouldn't you want to have your best guys in the most important positions. Looking at it another way, if you have to have one side of your line be weaker than the other wouldn't you prefer that to be the right side. The only argument I could see against it is if you don't think Bulaga and Sitton on the right side will be better than who we had to begin with.

Maybe some people are having issues because it is a drastic move that reeks of desperation. Its like a double reverse flea flicker. It's a trick play and it makes it seem like we are desperate. Well, according to some people, when it comes to our offensive line we are desperate. I just don't see it like that. I see it as a coaching staff trying to make the best with the players they have to work with.

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Mucky Tundra (1h) : Geeze Zero get it right!😋

Zero2Cool (2h) : I guess 3 games. Whatever

Zero2Cool (2h) : Bleh, that only impacts two games.

Zero2Cool (2h) : Packers are gonna get 3rd place division schedule next year.

Mucky Tundra (3h) : Kanata, seek help! lol

beast (5h) : I was rooting for the Bears to win and hurt their draft pick status

Zero2Cool (5h) : Forgot there was even a game last night haha

TheKanataThrilla (6h) : That was terrible.

TheKanataThrilla (6h) : Watching that game in its entirety yesterday is proof positive that I am a football addict.

beast (6h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent

beast (6h) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime

beast (6h) : They probably are not tanking, but they've absolutely mismanagement some things, such as Vikings seeing the Packers blocked FG and realizing

Zero2Cool (7h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is

Zero2Cool (7h) : Hail Mary stop away from 5 - 2. Not sure how that flips to tanking. Crazy mindset if true

beast (8h) : I've quietly questioned if Bears are tanking on purpose... they suddenly got a lot worse with some simple concepts like 101 clock management

wpr (10h) : Watching bares fans melt down over how putrid their team is, so enjoyable. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

Mucky Tundra (17h) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago

beast (18h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years

Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.

packerfanoutwest (26-Dec) : well this is his last season with the PAck, book it

beast (26-Dec) : Sounds like no Alexander (again), I'm wondering if his time with the Packers is done

Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : Could ban beast and I still don't think anyone catches him.

Mucky Tundra (26-Dec) : Houston getting dog walked by Baltimore

packerfanoutwest (25-Dec) : Feliz Navidad!

Zero2Cool (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas!

beast (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas 🎄🎁

beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won

Martha Careful (24-Dec) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!

Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol

Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???

Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

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