stevegb
11 years ago
I thought we already retooled, (well our defense that is) by spending about 6 draft picks on it. I think our main difference between our defense of 2010 and our previous 2 years' defense is the loss of our superstar safety nick collins and the loss of cullen jenkins, none of the guys we have aquired over the past 2 years are up to their standards... yet.


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blueleopard
11 years ago
Need a change of philosophy or an increase in speed. Tramon Williams looked like an idiot too.
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Gaycandybacon
11 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHHA DID YOU JUST SAY, THAT WE NEED TO FIND A NEW QB?!?!?!? Because our defense couldn't stop a nosebleed against a running quarterback? That is probably the most idiotic post yet. Only thing I agree on is letting capers go. We didn't have time to run the ball on offense of course we're not gonna get anything going.
Cal2GreenBay
11 years ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHHA DID YOU JUST SAY, THAT WE NEED TO FIND A NEW QB?!?!?!? Because our defense couldn't stop a nosebleed against a running quarterback? That is probably the most idiotic post yet. Only thing I agree on is letting capers go. We didn't have time to run the ball on offense of course we're not gonna get anything going.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



Who said to change QBs? Anyone?
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Gaycandybacon
11 years ago

Aaron has peaked, sad for me to say,

Kaepernick is the future and it is now.


Looks like it needs to happen again, or else Aaron may be a one Super Bowl guy like Favre.

Originally Posted by: Cal2GreenBay 



Sure sounded like it.
Cal2GreenBay
11 years ago

Sure sounded like it.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



You may want to take reading comprehension class again.

That statement said Rodgers is as good as can be. He won't be getting faster. The future of the NFL
Is Kapernick, Wilson, and RG3.

Not once does it SURE SOUND LIIKE I said to replace Rodgers

I said, for the packers to compete, they need a stronger dlineman, a stronger offensive line and better athletes to defend against this new generation of QB.
Rodgers is as good as he can be. Now they need to make the team around him better if they want to play a more physical team with a dynamic QB.

Read more carefully before jumping to inaccurate conclusions.
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Gaycandybacon
11 years ago

You may want to take reading comprehension class again.

That statement said Rodgers is as good as can be. He won't be getting faster. The future of the NFL
Is Kapernick, Wilson, and RG3.

Not once does it SURE SOUND LIIKE I said to replace Rodgers

I said, for the packers to compete, they need a stronger dlineman, a stronger offensive line and better athletes to defend against this new generation of QB.
Rodgers is as good as he can be. Now they need to make the team around him better if they want to play a more physical team with a dynamic QB.

Read more carefully before jumping to inaccurate conclusions.

Originally Posted by: Cal2GreenBay 



Lol whatever.[wasntme] Should of been more specific, on the whole need bigger, stronger, and faster guys to push them around.[sarcasm] I agree with the Seattle, 49ers defenses. They look hell of a lot bigger on fields than offenses are today.

I just was poking fun on the first post. It just sounded like oh Rodgers might be done, when you said he "peaked".
blueleopard
11 years ago
If there's anything about us Packers fans, it's that we're too stubborn with the old way of playing football.

The read-option is NOT the Wildcat. The Wildcat was run by who again? The Dolphins with Ronnie Brown and which QB?

Teams are doing this with capable starters. Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Robert Griffin III, and Colin Kaepernick are all capable QB's. Other than RG3, all these quarterbacks are pass-first guys. This is a real scheme, and it's going to present teams with problems for a long time.

You need evidence? Look no further than what we already saw. The Falcons and Packers are among the NFL's elite. The Packers couldn't stop it. The Falcons barely contained it. This shit is real.
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Gaycandybacon
11 years ago

If there's anything about us Packers fans, it's that we're too stubborn with the old way of playing football.

The read-option is NOT the Wildcat. The Wildcat was run by who again? The Dolphins with Ronnie Brown and which QB?

Teams are doing this with capable starters. Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Robert Griffin III, and Colin Kaepernick are all capable QB's. Other than RG3, all these quarterbacks are pass-first guys. This is a real scheme, and it's going to present teams with problems for a long time.

You need evidence? Look no further than what we already saw. The Falcons and Packers are among the NFL's elite. The Packers couldn't stop it. The Falcons barely contained it. This shit is real.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



Well it's similar to the wildcat because 1 year the defenses couldn't stop it. Next year it was pretty much a non factor. I could see that happening again. It's not a safe offense to run either unless you got a Tebow type build. Kaepernick wasn't really running those plays either as Troy Aikman stated, most of those runs he was taking off after droping back.
Cal2GreenBay
11 years ago

If there's anything about us Packers fans, it's that we're too stubborn with the old way of playing football.

The read-option is NOT the Wildcat. The Wildcat was run by who again? The Dolphins with Ronnie Brown and which QB?

Teams are doing this with capable starters. Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Robert Griffin III, and Colin Kaepernick are all capable QB's. Other than RG3, all these quarterbacks are pass-first guys. This is a real scheme, and it's going to present teams with problems for a long time.

You need evidence? Look no further than what we already saw. The Falcons and Packers are among the NFL's elite. The Packers couldn't stop it. The Falcons barely contained it. This shit is real.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



Blue Leopard, great post. My sentiments exactly. The old way is not exactly the best way.
As for the other post argument that this will be stopped next year. Really? How?

The wildcat was stopped in the season it was implemented. The reason it was stopped was because it was a FLAWED strategy. Put the running back in the QB role and run from there. There's no real threat of pass. It's just a wrinkle in the run game. Ronnie Brown(a running back) or Tebow.

Tebow is not a dynamic runner, and was a halfback running in the QB position. He was a flea flicking QB at best and even though his package was run well in Denver, it made the team one dimensional.

At this point, the Packers are ALSO one dimensional because the only top flight part of the offense is Aaron's passing ability. The run game is not up to par, and Aaron is a good but not ELITE runner at the QB position. The packers need a dynamic running back to complement Aaron at this point to make the offense be multi-dimensional. Aaron's not going to get any faster.

There's no glaring flaw in the READ OPTION play as with the wildcat, if you have the 3 factors: A good passing game, a good running game, and a dynamic running QB.

It is so hard to defend the READ OPTION(not wildcat)part of an offense with a pass first QB with Dynamic running ability because the threat of a good running game, a good passing game, and a super fast QB is too much for a defense to account for. You can't cover ALL of it.
You have to give up something. The packers had to bank on Kaepernick beating them, and he did. They weren't going to lose by passing, or by Frank Gore's running.

This is not something that the NFL defenses will easily solve. This is also not something that will go away because the QBs will injure themselves by being too careless(like RG3).

Russell Wilson, Kaepernick KNOW HOW TO RUN and KNOW HOW TO AVOID CONTACT. They are going to surive and be around.

This is not a fad, or a one hit wonder. This style of quarterback is the evolution of football.
Terry Bradshaw on FOX said it, Tom Jackson on ESPN said it, and many NFL writers said it.

We are witnessing a new style and it's exciting.
Change is not that easy for everyone, I guess...
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