Cal2GreenBay
11 years ago
The defense has to be rebuilt. We need more power up front. The offensive line of the niners is way to o strong. We need a defense like the Seahawks.

Aaron has peaked, sad for me to say,
Alex smith was leading stats and got pulled for is guy, you can see why,
Kaepernick is the future and it is now.

This happened to Farve too.
The team had to be rebuilt during his prime years after losing to Denver and San Francisco.
Looks like it needs to happen again, or else Aaron may be a one Super Bowl guy like Favre.


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rabidgopher04
11 years ago
Pick up Osi Umenyiora and see what he has left. Move up in the draft. Packers need a guy on the line who is disruptive (like Jared Allen, JPP, Justin Tuck, JJ Watt, etc.).
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RajiRoar
11 years ago
I keep trying to type stuff..

But I can't without extreme bitching.. So I'm out for a while.

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RajiRoar
11 years ago
1 more note actually.

This team cannot be the "Green Bay Rodgers" anymore

No D
No running game


The guy has no help if he has a bad day.

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musccy
11 years ago

The defense has to be rebuilt. We need more power up front. The offensive line of the niners is way to o strong. We need a defense like the Seahawks.

Aaron has peaked, sad for me to say,
Alex smith was leading stats and got pulled for is guy, you can see why,
Kaepernick is the future and it is now.

This happened to Farve too.
The team had to be rebuilt during his prime years after losing to Denver and San Francisco.
Looks like it needs to happen again, or else Aaron may be a one Super Bowl guy like Favre.

Originally Posted by: Cal2GreenBay 



Aaron has PEAKED?!? Did Kappernick peak at Seattle?!? What evidence do you have to support this?

I will admit this b.s. read option horse shit offense is taking over the league and I have no clue how you stop it, but it doesn't mean Aaron is "peaked". Brady and Manning are 2 favorites for MVP even this year and they're as mobile as a marble statue.
dyeah_gb
11 years ago

Aaron has PEAKED?!? Did Kappernick peak at Seattle?!? What evidence do you have to support this?

I will admit this b.s. read option horse shit offense is taking over the league and I have no clue how you stop it, but it doesn't mean Aaron is "peaked". Brady and Manning are 2 favorites for MVP even this year and they're as mobile as a marble statue.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



I think Rodgers played as good this year as last year. I do maybe question a bit of his intelligence or ability to learn from his mistakes at this point. For example, the INT going for the money shot to Nelson 40+ yds down the field on 3rd down. It is hard to tell how much this is Rodgers or the offensive scheme though.
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blueleopard
11 years ago
NO NFL DEFENSE CAN STOP THE READ-OPTION... YET.

Until somebody figures it out, we can't be hoping to beat San Francisco. The only way to stop the read-option is to also have an offense that has the read-option. The only team that has that is Seattle, and I fucking hate Seattle.

Do we need to re-load? Yeah, we might need faster inside linebackers like SF has. But I think Shields and Hayward are our corners of the future. Tramon needs to watch for the ball instead of trying to stop his opposition.

On offense, we need better offensive linemen. Maybe it's the scheme. I don't know, but Rodgers can't be running around all the time.
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shield4life
11 years ago
We need bigger o-line, we need to pick a more impact RB. More physical CB to match up well against WR that are monsters.Another MLB & D-Linemen!
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rabidgopher04
11 years ago

We need bigger o-line, we need to pick a more impact RB. More physical CB to match up well against WR that are monsters.Another MLB & D-Linemen!

Originally Posted by: shield4life 



I would be more than happy to roll with DuJuan Harris again. He's looked better and better the more he played.
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Cal2GreenBay
11 years ago
I agree with others that the read option offense has no answer right now.
I also agree that Seattle also runs it and they are the most annoying team in a long time.

ThAt being said, the Seattle athletic defense is the blueprint to follow.
You need athletic, powerful dlineman. Easier said than done to find.
Green Bays offensive line also needs to be rebuilt.

All of this we all seem to agree,

When I say Aaron has peaked, I mean, the future of the NFL looks like Kaepernick, RG3 and Russell Wilson.

Brady, Rodgers, and Manning are still at the top of their games, but going back to the read option thing, there is a dynamic QB blueprint that defenses have not been able to solve.

The QB play of Rodgers, Brady, and Manning don't have that element, and that's why there is a ceiling or peak. This is why Harbaugh benched alex smith for Kap. That is why I said Aaron has peaked. He is not going to get any faster. He is as good as he can be.

The landscape of the NFL has changed in a matter of 3 years since the Green Bay Super Bowl.

Like the last poster said, we will need to incorporate a dynamic player, and develop a super athletic D to compete with teams like the niners or Seahawks or another Super Bowl will be out of reach for a long time.


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