Jarrett Bush or Sam Shields?· Page 3

zombieslayer
Registered

12 years ago

I would take Bush. Until he gets burned in the game on Sunday I believe he can get the job done. He's one of the most athletic guys on this team. He's shown improvement in his years in GB. Remember early in his career? He wouldn't even be in a discussion for a job like this. So the fact that he is even in this discussion says something about his progression. And don't forget the pass rush was an issue last year. he is above average at coming with the blitz. For a corner

Originally Posted by: agopackgo4

Another good point. He is better than Shields at pass rushing. (And yes, that's important considering how poor we were at it last year).

My man Donald Driver

(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷

beast
Select Member

12 years ago

#22

I haven't trusted Bush in coverage... but this preseason he looked a whole lot better, and surprisingly didn't make huge mistakes. He made a couple of smaller ones but Shields and Hayward made more.

The 49ers run the ball more, and Capers has been blitzing CBs from the outside some and Bush might be better at taking down a RB in the back field.

I think Bush will get the start.

I think Shields might be the best pure coverage guy of the rest.

A healthy House might be the best overall but we don't know if he'll be healthy enough yet.

I really liked Hayward, he made some rookie mistakes in one game but overall I thought he looked more like a 2nd year guy out there and just seemed to get it.

Not excited about this... but I think I'll go with Bush... of the healthy guys he's made the least mistakes, so earned a shot. It's the 49ers who like the run the ball and be physical which matches his style. But I might have a short leash...

Also I'm worried one of the DBs will get burned by the play action with the 49ers run their offense off of. Run the ball, run the ball, fake run the ball and pass.... I think that fake will get one of the DBs if the pressure doesn't get to him.

nerdmann
Premier Member

12 years ago

#23

Bush can maintain coverage. He just can't make a play on the ball when it's in the air.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

12 years ago

#24

It is my hope that Shields can make a number of big plays which would help him get his confidence back and, of course, it would also help the cause.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

nyrpack
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#25

shields by far !!

jimmy b.

nerdmann
Premier Member

12 years ago

#26

JSO

"I'm new and improved," Bush said. "I'm older, wiser, faster, stronger. And I'm here to make plays. Shoot, I'm here to be dominant."

Damn, that scares me.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

yooperfan
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#27

How about "none of the above"?

nerdmann
Premier Member

12 years ago

#28

How about "none of the above"?

Originally Posted by: yooperfan

Shields made a key third down tackle against Frank Gore, a tough runner who significantly outweighs him. I give him credit for that.

Seemed like they were playing Bush on running downs, Shields on passing downs.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

stevegb
Member

12 years ago

#29

If its out of those two its shields for me no matter what, I cant stand bush. I accept him if hes on the special teams and that's how he makes the team but to have him in the Defensive squad is nuts, hes just not good enough. At least with shields you get elite speed and maybe he is able to recover, also there's a chance with more experience it finally clicks for shields.

blank

dfosterf
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#30

Bush sucks. He just does. I'm sorry. One of you Wisconsinites please tell Ted. He doesn't get it any better than some of you.

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

wpr (12h) : 5 days

beast (18-Apr) : 6 days

wpr (17-Apr) : 7 days

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep

dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire

dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that

dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.

dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move

dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately

Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.

dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.

Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb

wpr (9-Apr) : yay

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland

Zero2Cool (8-Apr) : Struggling to figure out what text editor options are needed and which are 'nice to have'

Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you

Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

30 - 14

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

29 - 31

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

24 - 19

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

34 - 13

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

24 - 22

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

30 - 27

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

14 - 24

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

20 - 19

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

38 - 10

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

30 - 17

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

31 - 34

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

30 - 13

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

34 - 0

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM

Vikings

25 - 27

Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

22 - 24