Zero2Cool
12 years ago
3rd LT because Derek Sherrod is still not available.

Marshall Newhouse
Derek Sherrod
Herb Taylor


I think that's the train of thought...
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DarkaneRules
12 years ago
McCarren said Datko had a much improved performance last practice. Somebody to watch in the future.
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doddpower
12 years ago

3rd LT because Derek Sherrod is still not available.

Marshall Newhouse
Derek Sherrod
Herb Taylor


I think that's the train of thought...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I understand that, but I just don't get it. Sherrod will not be ready to play for the foreseeable future, and perhaps a long time. We all known that for some time now. As a result, I don't see how he could be the projected #2 on the depth chart entering training camp. Even if he's healthy enough to be cleared to play, he's going to have to show he has recovered enough to be any where close to effective before he can even be considered to make the team (as opposed to continued PUP or Injured Reserve). Not a huge deal, just the way I see things. Hopefully the Packer's are preparing as if Sherrod will be a non-factor this season. If that turns out not to be the case, than great. I just hope they aren't depending on him to be a starter anytime soon. Until Sherrod can show he is fully healthy and able to earn a spot on the team, I don't think he should even be a factor on the depth chart. I think this way because who knows if he will be able to contribute anything this season.

zombieslayer
12 years ago

I understand that, but I just don't get it. Sherrod will not be ready to play for the foreseeable future, and perhaps a long time. We all known that for some time now. As a result, I don't see how he could be the projected #2 on the depth chart entering training camp. Even if he's healthy enough to be cleared to play, he's going to have to show he has recovered enough to be any where close to effective before he can even be considered to make the team (as opposed to continued PUP or Injured Reserve). Not a huge deal, just the way I see things. Hopefully the Packer's are preparing as if Sherrod will be a non-factor this season. If that turns out not to be the case, than great. I just hope they aren't depending on him to be a starter anytime soon. Until Sherrod can show he is fully healthy and able to earn a spot on the team, I don't think he should even be a factor on the depth chart. I think this way because who knows if he will be able to contribute anything this season.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



Two things to [aiee] about:
1) The D,
2) The OL

Thus, [aiee]

Uncle 🇹🇹 drafted two consecutive OTs who were supposed to be "the guy who will replace Cliffy" and neither of them have replaced Cliffy.

I think that merits [aiee]
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Two things to [aiee] about:
1) The D,
2) The OL

Thus, [aiee]

Uncle 🇹🇹 drafted two consecutive OTs who were supposed to be "the guy who will replace Cliffy" and neither of them have replaced Cliffy.

I think that merits [aiee]

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



I think it takes 3 years to accurately evaluate a draft, player. If the Packers said Bryan Bulaga was to replace Chad Clifton and ended up replacing Mark Tauscher, is it really that big of a deal since he had to be replaced anyway? Derek Sherrod is only in his second season, lets give him a little time before we go bonkers.

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Pack93z
12 years ago
Time to inkle in my thoughts..

In my honest opinion we are in the best shape we have been in the Ted era along the offensive line.. hands down.

We have 5 starters that at worst are solid, yes that includes Newhouse whom some would disagree with that sentiment. Remember this.. Newhouse was kind of thrown into the left tackle spot and forced into duty last season.. he is an instant upgrade in run blocking and plenty athletic to pass block. IMO, he needs experience and that is what hurts the most with him getting dinged.. however I don't think it is that bad as they haven't ruled him out of this weeks game.

Back to the depth chart here a bit.

We have a pro bowl caliber right side of the line.. we should be set there for Aaron's prime years or most of them. We have a solid short term solution at Center.. a guy that probably isn't a physically gifted center.. but much like Frankie Bag of Doughnuts.. makes up a ton in the savvy, experience and intelligent department. Saturday lives up to that smartest guy on the line mantra that is waved inside football locker rooms.

Lang found his place to settle down and continue his development into what I think will be probably the most decorated guy on this current line when it is all said and done. Either him or Sitton.. but I think Lang has that kind of talent, all the way to being selected out of college. Took longer to settle in than I expected.. but just the same settled in.

Depth, tested depth is and will always be a concern along NFL offensive lines when good lineman command the type of money they command. You are either going to fill it out with young developing players that are untested.. or players that are in decline and you question how much they have left in the tank.

Inside we have EDS, Genus and Dominguez. EDS is proven that he can step in.. and Genus and Dominguez have flashed here or there.. I have confidence that inside we have decent depth. Or we will find it in cut downs.

IMO, Sherrod will develop into a very good player.. but it will be stunted due to his injury last season.. couple that with lingering when will he be ready questions. But if we can make it out to the PUP deadline.. I think he should be able to suit up then and solidify the depth.

So the question is.. can someone like Taylor cover the depth in the interim or will we need to swing a camp cutdown deal or comb the waiver wires for a potential 4th tackle?

There are many teams still answering question in terms of starters along multiple spots of our line.. I like the fact we are sweating the 4th tackle on our depth chart. We have some depth at WR that we can leverage if needed or should.

Come a long ways from the days I wanted to slam my fingers in a door rather than watch our line try to pickup a stunt or hell even just straight up man block.


For a different thread.. I have a heck of a lot more confidence in this years makeup of a defensive line than last season. Worthy will bring it.. by midseason we will be talking in terms of him starting.. if not in line for post season awards for rookies.

Hargrove, Daniels, Muir, give us a better rotation straight out of the blocks..

My friends.. book this.. it will not be a personnel issue up front for defensive struggles unless a repeat of 2010 and the injury bug strikes hard. We have that much talent infused on this team.

Want the honest truth.. I hope Hargrove has to sit 8 games.. because that is going to be one hunger fresh dog to add for the second half of the season.
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nerdmann
12 years ago
Don't forget Lang has been successful at LT as well.
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Pack93z
12 years ago

Don't forget Lang has been successful at LT as well.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I hated that approach.. move one and create a weaker overall group. Yes.. if we had to.. we could kick him out there.

I would rather have 4 solid places locked down and game plan to cover a hole than shift guys around and hope it pans out.

You can play call and adjust protection packages to cover for one weaker link.. chip with a TE and Back.. roll the pocket to the right.. gap adjustments.. if you know that other four spots are solid.

IMO anyway..


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steveishere
12 years ago

I hated that approach.. move one and create a weaker overall group. Yes.. if we had to.. we could kick him out there.

I would rather have 4 solid places locked down and game plan to cover a hole than shift guys around and hope it pans out.

You can play call and adjust protection packages to cover for one weaker link.. chip with a TE and Back.. roll the pocket to the right.. gap adjustments.. if you know that other four spots are solid.

IMO anyway..

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



It really depends how your depth stacks up. Lang at T and EDS at G could still be a stronger unit than Lang at G and some random UDFA at LT. If you trust the Lang and EDS line up enough you can just run the regular offense without having to make extra protections.
nerdmann
12 years ago

It really depends how your depth stacks up. Lang at T and EDS at G could still be a stronger unit than Lang at G and some random UDFA at LT. If you trust the Lang and EDS line up enough you can just run the regular offense without having to make extra protections.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



And keep in mind, Lang's playing for a new contract. He's gonna produce.
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