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12 years ago

The NFL will start hiring and training possible replacement officials with a deal not yet completed with the NFL Referees Association.

Talks between the league and the officials broke down after two mediation sessions that followed nine bargaining negotiations since October. Both sides have said they expect a new collective bargaining agreement in time for the upcoming season.

But that optimism has disappeared.

A session was held Sunday under the auspices of the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service, and the NFLRA said the league "terminated negotiations" on Monday.

The NFL said new demands made by the officials led to the end of talks.

"In yesterday's session, the NFLRA ... abandoned positions that it had previously taken with both us and the mediators, and made economic demands totaling millions of additional dollars that they had agreed to drop at earlier sessions," league spokesman Greg Aiello said.

The league said that regional training sessions for replacement officials would begin this month "to ensure that there is no disruption to NFL games this season."

"Our goal is to maintain the highest quality of officiating for our teams, players, and fans, including proper enforcement of the playing rules and efficient management of our games," the league said in a statement.

The league will look to hire officials from anywhere but the BCS conferences because those officials are run by NFL officials, and the NFL doesn't want to put the BCS officials in an awkward situation.

The NFL's search would instead target retired college officials and perhaps current ones who would be qualified to work professional games.

Referees counsel Mike Arnold called those replacements "amateur referees."



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Wade
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12 years ago
Just because current NFL referees have been paid doesn't mean their professional-quality. IMO about half of them should be replaced.

Including some of the ones with the most seniority and biggest guns.

The distance between the top ten percent of college referees and the bottom 90 percent of NFL referees is a lot smaller than the NFL refs think.

And I think the NFL knows it.

And sorry, union friends, the NFL isn't Wisconsin. The Gang of 31+ isn't going to recall Goodell for this.
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dfosterf
12 years ago
he he he

good one liner

Zero2Cool
12 years ago
Maybe the NFL should just have one or two referee's on the field and let a couple pinheads in the booth determine plays. Greed wins out!!
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12 years ago
plus one-point-five for effective use of the word "pinhead."
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
Who knew it would kick our butts?!?
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
"The officials have enjoyed defined-benefit pension plan, and the league has been seeking, in these negotiations, to terminate that plan and switch the NFLRA over to a 401(k)"
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Pack93z
12 years ago
Want more reads on it...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/13/nfl-referee-lockout-pensions_n_1879049.html 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/09/25/nfl-referee-negotiations/index.html#ixzz27VVipkYh 

Both very good at explaining the details.


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Formo
12 years ago
Just saw somewhere that Mortenson is reporting that the NFL and the NFLRA are finishing a deal that would get the regular refs back to work as soon as this weekend. Of course, only when the Packers get screwed over is when they actually start getting progress. You guys and the NFL are a bunch of pussies.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Just saw somewhere that Mortenson is reporting that the NFL and the NFLRA are finishing a deal that would get the regular refs back to work as soon as this weekend. Of course, only when the Packers get screwed over is when they actually start getting progress. You guys and the NFL are a bunch of pussies.

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Interesting that even a bitter Vikings fan acknowledges the Packers were screwed.
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