U.S. Government lied about 9/11?· Page 3

porky88
Veteran Member

12 years ago

Do you remember a little island named JAPAN?
WHO really thought they would have the balls to attack US?
Truth is, as long as there are nut cases (like the guys running North Korea and Iran) we need a strong military.
Like i said, it's to PREVENT anyone from attacking us.

Really, if we spent more time taking care of our own instead of sending trillions to other countries, we could get our own debt under control.
I wonder if 50 years from now, we will still have a counrty?

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

How strong should our defenses be? For example, the United States spent eight times more money on our military than China did on theirs. Now, I’m not implying we shouldn’t spend more than China to maintain an advantage. I want a strong defense as much as any other person would, but I also want an efficient one. The decisions made over the last 30 years haven’t been very efficient, in my assessment.

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Porforis
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#22

Let's not kid ourselves. When was the last time anyone ever said "I'm going to kill those God damn Swiss!"?

Nobody hates the Swiss because they never get involved in anything. Or the Thais. Or the Costa Ricans.

People don't just hate for no reason.

However, I do see where Foster is coming from when he talks about Pol Pot. Pol Pot was arguably the most evil ruler of the 20th century and as non-interventionistic as I am, I'm kind of torn on that one.

Montana - Yeah. Plus they talk funny and they don't lock their doors.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

Do you really think every group I mentioned in my previous post would just be like "eh, Swiss. Let 'em be." if the rest of the world were under their control? There's a difference between being left alone because you're not pissing people off, and being left alone because there's bigger fish to fry. Although North Korea's kind of excluded from this example, they're not really out for world domination.

dfosterf
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#23

I was in Iraq twice. I have no problem with why I was there either time. I could be a moron, or I could have thought it through both times, since it was in fact my ass on the line both times, in very much the literal sense. Both times, the outcome was in doubt when I went, at least amongst you. This was an investment in what I believe. About 2 years in toto. Africa was my gig, because we do try and make a difference, but that was never on your MSNBC, and I and my guys represented this country MOST times, and to my knowledge ---

Represented it very well. I know I did, at all times. A bit over 18 years on the very pointy-end of America's stick when the FIRST gulf war hit, for a very tiny bit of perspective that will blow right over most folk's heads.

Sorry, it bugs me when folks mmq this country regarding foreign affairs, especially when the trigger is pulled to send in troops. It's really the closest to the last bastion of anything reasonable we have.

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