Packers Unlikely To Clear Collins· Page 2

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

They already drafted that last year in Davon House, but they could add another one because Bush and Lee are probably gone.

Do you really think Wood has enough pop in him to play safety full time? I wouldn't mind bringing in a veeteran not named Charlie Peprah.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

I like MD Jennings. Nothing too great, but he's always in the right place.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

porky88
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#12

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Woodson still reads and reacts well. That's the most important part of playing safety. Do you understand your surroundings? Are you instinctive? Those are still there for Woodson. Safeties don't play in the box as a fourth or fifth LB anymore. There’s not many Leroy Butlers anymore. Frankly, the position is about finding smart instinctive players or guys with insane measurables.

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nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: porky88

Or in the case of Collins, both.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

DakotaT
Select Member

12 years ago

#14

Or in the case of Collins, both.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I think our defense really went in the dumper when Collins went down. It was much easier for Peprah to replace Burnett last year then Collins this year. As fans we should really feel cheated because I think we would have had something real special at the safety tandem for a long time.

I'm not saying Woodson can't play safety, but safety need to be enforcers just as much as being cerebral. We will see how it plays out, but we will need a developmental 4th safety drafted this year.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

12 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

keep in mind, Burnett STILL hasn't had an offseason in the system. I see him very much as another Nick Collins type player. Dude's got all world skills. So if he becomes the savvy vet Collins was, I don't see why Peprah wouldn't be able to pair with him.

Still, barring stenosis or other complications, I don't see why Collins would have a greater injury risk than he previously had. Man, Collins and Burnett as a S tandem would be UNREAL. LOL. No one would be able to throw against us consistently.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

DoddPower
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I get what you're saying, but unless our pass rush improves, we would still have a horrible pass defense. Either way, it would certainly help and be nice to have both Collins and Burnett.

If Collins and his doctors say he is able to play this season, he should be put on PUP and given every chance to come back. It's his decision to make. Of course the Packers don't have to allow him but if he's determined they should give him every opportunity to do so. Heck, maybe even IR him for the entire season and give it a shot the following season if he's truly determined to return. I could see a potentially salary cap issue there, but maybe not without certain incentives and such.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

12 years ago

#17

If the doctors clear Nick Collins to play and the Packers don't, the Packers hold the cards, contract wise.
2012: $3.45 million
2013: $4.35 million
2014: Free Agent

Of course, he could always be traded as we've seen that happen before.

The more I read about the surgery Nick Collins had and how his recovery is going ... the more I believe he will play again for the Packers. But, barring a doctor saying "Mr. Collins, you are no more at risk now than you were this time a year ago if you continue in the NFL" ... if a doctor (or two or three) doesn't say this ... I hope to never see Nick Collins on the field in uniform again.

Pack93z
Select Member

12 years ago

#18

I've been up front about this since the day he was carted off the field, I don't want to see Nick on a football field in pads ever again.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

I am and have been firmly in that camp as well.

Live your life Nick.. outside the risk of confinement to a debilitating injury.

You should have enough money to live upon.. or at the very least jump start a path for the rest of your life.

And if you can't shake that football itch.. coach and teach the game at some level.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

12 years ago

#19

Nick Collins has said he'd like to get into coaching after his NFL career is done. I think that's the path he should take.

blueleopard
Member

12 years ago

#20

I don't think wanting Nick Collins back is foolish.

Risk this. Risk that.

Whatever.

This is professional football folks. You can die at any given play.

Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings

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