Porforis
12 years ago

That's exactly what I was going to say. I think it's the very fact the secondary was gambling so much that kept them from getting off the field.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Gambling, losing, and giving up a touchdown on a long pass play is a great way to get off the field quick.
Porforis
12 years ago

What did Mike Neal actually do good this past season?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Got paid a lot, paid a lot in taxes, and thus made a tiny tiny tiny tiny dent in the deficit.
Nonstopdrivel
12 years ago

I thought the colloquialism was "for all the good that it did."

Originally Posted by: Wade 


Well, I've always heard it as "for all the good that did," but "Wisconsinite" is pretty much a synonym for "cretin," so who knows.

I never claimed to be smart or intelligent. [grin1]
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dyeah_gb
12 years ago

Think of it this way. A colloquialism is what a grammarian uses for a dildo.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Waiting for the video link.
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dyeah_gb
12 years ago

I think Woodson at saftey would be a good idea. We had so many blown coverages without Collins it was ridiculous. Collins was the heart and soul of the D, and I think we need someone who can communicate the coverages. Woodson can do that.

I don't think we need to if we get Collins back though.

Originally Posted by: El3ment380 



Communication appeared to be severely lacking with the D this season. Every game it appeared that the D was unable to set up or adjust prior to the snap of key plays. I agree that Woodson's leadership is a benefit to the D but is it a fact that Woodson has the vision and inclination to have the D prepared before the snap if moved to safety?
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porky88
12 years ago

Communication appeared to be severely lacking with the D this season. Every game it appeared that the D was unable to set up or adjust prior to the snap of key plays. I agree that Woodson's leadership is a benefit to the D but is it a fact that Woodson has the vision and inclination to have the D prepared before the snap if moved to safety?

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 


Woodson is this team's leader, so I think he definitely has it in him to prepare the defense. He's smart and part of playing safety is about reading and reacting to the play. Woodson does that very well despite his age. In the perfect world, Nick Collins returns, but we don’t know his status going forward.
Zero2Cool
12 years ago
As I've been saying for quite some time, the Packers have no plans to move Charles Woodson to safety. :P

I think the closer Charles is to the ball the more dangerous he is and more impact he has to the offense. He's the most instinctive defensive player I've ever been around.

Mike McCarthy  wrote:



From the article ... "...when matched against tight ends and wide receivers in the slot, Woodson covered so well in the final eight games that he didn't allow a single completion for more than 20 yards."
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From the article ... "...when matched against tight ends and wide receivers in the slot, Woodson covered so well in the final eight games that he didn't allow a single completion for more than 20 yards."

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



That's interesting. It makes me wonder, though, if every catch he did allow was a crucial third down conversion, heh heh.

gbguy20
12 years ago

As I've been saying for quite some time, the Packers have no plans to move Charles Woodson to safety. :P


From the article ... "...when matched against tight ends and wide receivers in the slot, Woodson covered so well in the final eight games that he didn't allow a single completion for more than 20 yards."

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



agreed with the guy who posted above me...this stat is really a pile of shit.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

That's interesting. It makes me wonder, though, if every catch he did allow was a crucial third down conversion, heh heh.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



Well, ... if the Packers gave up 30 19yd receptions, 21 were probably from ... you guessed it #21. HAHAHAHA



I like Charles Woodson a lot, but he's not a Safety and those who feel he should move are silly. I think if he stops taking as many risks, he'll improve closer to his '09 form than '11. He's not ready to be shuffled to the pasture, err, Safety.


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