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DoddPower
13 years ago

I only saw one drop by Finley should have easily been caught. The others were catchable, but difficult. Still, you cant have that performance, especially when your best receiver is out.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



It doesn't matter if the catches were difficult. To be elite, one has to make more of those catches. An average receiver will only make routine catches. Finley is what he is: a good player that talks a little too much. Hopefully he realizes that and sticks with the Packers with a reasonable contract.
dyeah_gb
13 years ago
It always sucks to lose but I am not too bothered. This is the first game where the D did not get any turnovers and the Offense was kept in check.
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

This is the first game where the D did not get any turnovers and the Offense was kept in check.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 


But that's the whole point I have been harping on for weeks. This defense is incapable of pulling out a win when the offense is held in check and it cannot manage the turnovers.

Bend but don't break only works when you're scoring a lot of points. If the offense is having an off day, bend but don't break ends up being death by a thousand cuts. It's losing as slowly as possible instead of giving the offense a chance to win.
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dyeah_gb
13 years ago

But that's the whole point I have been harping on for weeks. This defense is incapable of pulling out a win when the offense is held in check and it cannot manage the turnovers.

Bend but don't break only works when you're scoring a lot of points. If the offense is having an off day, bend but don't break ends up being death by a thousand cuts. It's losing as slowly as possible instead of giving the offense a chance to win.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Today's game clearly showed the flaws with a textbook "bend don't break" defense. I would like to think that all three top coaches are going to working overtime to see what adjustments are needed to get ready for the playoffs. The players (FINLEY!) also need to reflect on today's game too and think about what it means for the season.
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman
dyeah_gb
13 years ago
Also, Z2C is right that the forums will probably get double the traffic this week compared to the last few. I guess it is more entertaining to discuss losses then just revel in our greatness.
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
A lot of people have been saying the greatness of this team was getting boring. I will never, ever understand that philosophy. This season -- this streak -- was starting to feel historic. Now it will still be a great season (hopefully), but some of the luster will have worn off.

I found it absolutely riveting while it lasted.
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musccy
13 years ago

Also, Z2C is right that the forums will probably get double the traffic this week compared to the last few. I guess it is more entertaining to discuss losses then just revel in our greatness.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



I'm a victim of this as well - sadly having something controversial or to complain about just lends itself to more engaging conversations.
dyeah_gb
13 years ago

A lot of people have been saying the greatness of this team was getting boring. I will never, ever understand that philosophy. This season -- this streak -- was starting to feel historic. Now it will still be a great season (hopefully), but some of the luster will have worn off.

I found it absolutely riveting while it lasted.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 




A major historical opportunities was lost today. Winning the super bowl is obviously #1 priority but this year's team had a chance to be proven as the greatest NFL team ever. Bums me out a bit.
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
I wrote something similar in a post I couldn't bring myself to submit. I said that so many streaks had come to an end today, I didn't have the heart to post them all.

I am taking this loss much harder than I expected, and I am not sure why. It's not really anger like I have experienced in some games in the past. It's a feeling bordering on . . . grief.

I am surprised by this.
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RedSoxExcel
13 years ago

I wrote something similar in a post I couldn't bring myself to submit. I said that so many streaks had come to an end today, I didn't have the heart to post them all.

I am taking this loss much harder than I expected, and I am not sure why. It's not really anger like I have experienced in some games in the past. It's a feeling bordering on . . . grief.

I am surprised by this.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



I feel like this as well now. At first it was surprise, then it was like "who cares as long as we win the SB". Now I'm like "crap, a perfect season would have been f'n cool". To get the chance to go 16-0, so much has to go right. Having a good schedule, winning every close game, no untimely turnovers, etc.

Plus, I think we were two more wins away from all time win streak as well. I know people will say "16-0, who cares, it doesn't mean anything". But in reality it does, there is a reason why that Dolphins team is talked about every year (plus I think they only went 17-0, so 19-0 is even better). Even 2007 Pats at 18-1 get more talk it seems than the 2007 Giants that won the SB.

I won't care in a couple of days and move on and if they win the SB, I doubt I will even think about 19-0 again as back to back SBs is hard enough. But right now, feels like its an opportunity that was missed for not even a good reason. If we lost to a tough divisional rival or the Saints or something fine, but to lose to the Chiefs, it sucks. Esp since we didn't have any turnovers or give up a special teams play or anything - just doesn't make sense to me still that we actually lost.

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