Zero2Cool
16 years ago

Green Bay - The Green Bay Packers have kept either nine or 10 offensive linemen each season since the National Football League expanded the roster limit from 47 to 53 players in 1993.
By late today, the Packers might well have just eight players on the offensive line to accommodate better prospects at running back and linebacker.

To go heavy in one area a team must go light in another.

Last year, the Packers went into the regular season with merely two tight ends and two quarterbacks to support an unprecedented total of 11 defensive linemen and 10 defensive backs.

NFL teams must reach the 53-man limit by 5 p.m. On Sunday, teams can sign up to eight players to practice squads.

Heres a position-by-position rundown entering the day of decision:

Wide receiver: [ul]Even though James Jones figures to miss several more weeks because of a knee injury theres no one worth keeping after him, Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, Ruvell Martin and Jordy Nelson.

Brett Swain, a seventh-round draft choice, has been a disappointment. Not only does Swain lack big speed but neither his routes nor his hands were as good as advertised. Free agent Johnny Quinn is much tougher and could surface on the practice squad.[/ul]

Tight end: [ul]Almost every game, Jermichael Finley has a horrendous play or two in the run game. Against Tennessee, it came on the final snap of the first half when defensive end Jevon Kearse drove Finley 5 yards back and straight into Kregg Lumpkin, who absorbed a 5-yard loss.

The Packers might be better off this year adding a veteran blocker off waivers and going without Finley. But with his size, speed and receiving potential another team surely would claim Finley off waivers.

If the Packers keep just one fullback, they might need Tory Humphrey to operate as one of two lead blockers in their short-yardage backfield. Humphrey is better athletically than free agent Joey Haynos, who might be much better in 2009 after a productive year on the practice squad.
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Offensive line: [ul]The critical decision is whether to keep rookie Breno Giacomini, a fifth-round draft choice, as the No. 9 lineman.

At this point, Giacomini is a one-position player (right tackle). After a slow start he has improved, but not enough to contribute this year. His saltiness and reach are impressive but his feet need work.

Big, tough guy that cant move, one personnel man said. Theres a bunch of guys like him around.

The Packers took a hit Thursday when Junius Coston suffered what appeared to be a significant knee injury when defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth fell on him. NFL sources said the Packers told teams early in the week that Coston was available, and one personnel director said it was quite possible Green Bay could have gotten a conditional seventh-round pick for such an athletic guard with seven starts under his belt.

But those chances are gone now. Plus, when scouts see what Haynesworth did to Coston on his first two snaps, they probably wouldnt trade for him, anyway.

The Packers basically wasted three years working with tackle Orrin Thompson. Hes just a pretend player.

If Giacomini departs, the eight-man contingent might look like this against Minnesota: Chad Clifton and Mark Tauscher at tackle, Daryn Colledge and Jason Spitz at guard, Scott Wells at center, Allen Barbre as the backup at left guard, Tony Moll as the backup tackle and right guard, and right guard Josh Sitton on the sideline rehabilitating a sprained knee.[/ul]

Quarterback: [ul]As poorly as Brian Brohm has performed, the Packers arent about to waive him after one training camp even though Matt Flynn clearly was the second-best passer in camp.

Its not even close right now, one scout said. Flynns been in big games, too. They just gave Brohm all the hype and forgot about Flynn.

If the Packers decided that Flynn as the No. 2 wasnt desirable and brought in a veteran, theyd love him back on the practice squad. However, one scout predicted hed be claimed (another predicted he wouldnt). Moreover, Flynn probably would have other practice-squad possibilities, and after being let go for political reasons in Green Bay he might be eager for a new home.[/ul]

[img_r]http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/packer/img/news/aug08/smorency829.jpg[/img_r]Running back: [ul]The decision here might boil down to whether fullback John Kuhn is more valuable than linebacker Tracy White. Kuhn isnt as good on special teams as White but at least Kuhn plays 10 snaps each week from scrimmage whereas White doesnt play any.

Kregg Lumpkin isnt a special player but might possess the second-best running skills behind Ryan Grant. Against Tennessee, he made end Kyle Vanden Bosch miss at point-blank range, kept surging forward on most of his runs and continued to develop as a receiver and pass blocker.

Vernand Morency is the best pass blocker of the bunch. He also can be a hard guy to be around. Morency should make it over Noah Herron based on talent, but they both could go.

Two fullbacks are somewhat of a luxury. So are four running backs.[/ul]

Defensive line: [ul]It took until the exhibition finale but rookie end Jeremy Thompson finally made his presence felt. He is worthy of the sixth berth at end.

At tackle, Daniel Muir seems to rate a slight edge over Alfred Malone for the fourth slot.

Malone raised some eyebrows Thursday with first-half pressures against starters Kevin Mawae and Jake Scott. It was his best game. After a slow start, Muir has come on to an extent. He also had a flush at Mawaes expense and made a short-yardage stop for the second straight game.[/ul]

Linebackers:
[ul]Hunting down the tight end on a bootleg. Passing two other linebackers to make the tackle on a screen. Sifting through traffic to smash down Vince Young. Splattering the fullback in the flat.

Desmond Bishop did all of those things and more against Tennessee after merely three days of practice on the weak side. If A.J. Hawk is sidelined for the opener, Bishop should be in competition with Brandon Chillar for the starting assignment.

You could start Bishop against anybody and hes going to make plays, one scout said.

Abdul Hodge finished off a strong exhibition season with nine tackles (two for loss). He shed some of Tennessees best blockers and filled holes with authority. He also got stuck on some blocks and was a step slow getting to the sideline.

White limped off with a right ankle injury midway through the third quarter. His primary value is on special teams, but he did run over running back Chris Johnson to drill Young and broke up a flat pass to Johnson. White just isnt nearly as physical as Bishop and Hodge.

Free agents Spencer Havner and Danny Lansanah both have redeeming qualities.[/ul]

Secondary: [ul]Charlie Peprah might have been the most impressive safety in camp until he injured a hamstring Aug. 5. He still isnt ready and now might have lost his job.

Jarrett Bush, a key special-teams performer, has demonstrated a degree of proficiency at safety. With Bush as the No. 5 cornerback and No. 4 safety, the Packers could go back to keeping nine defensive backs.[/ul]

Specialists:
[ul]J.J. Jansens knee injury might cause the Packers to add another long snapper.[/ul]


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Mucky Tundra (6h) : Funny observation I've heard: Carson Wentz was on the sideline for both Eagles Super Bowl wins w/guys supposed to be his back up winning
Zero2Cool (11h) : NFL thought it would get more attention week preceding Super Bowl.
Zero2Cool (11h) : Yes, the Pro Bowl. It was played Sunday before Super Bowl from 2010-2022
packerfanoutwest (11h) : pro bowl
Zero2Cool (11h) : From 2010 to 2022, it was played on the Sunday before the Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (11h) : They moved it to the BYE week before Super Bowl several years ago.
packerfanoutwest (11h) : it was always after the SB.....
beast (21h) : Though I stop following pro bowl years ago
beast (21h) : I thought the pro game was before the Super Bowl?
packerfanoutwest (22h) : ok now for the Pro Bowl Game in Hawaii
TheKanataThrilla (23h) : If I was Philly I would try to end it instead of punting it
Mucky Tundra (23h) : VICTORY! We have (moral) victory!
TheKanataThrilla (23h) : Hey they mentioned that we 3-peted
Mucky Tundra (23h) : seems to me the 49ers should have traded Aiyuk when they had the chance
Mucky Tundra (23h) : if the Eagles get it down to the 1, do they Tush Push or give it to Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (23h) : 49ers have a money problem if they want to sign their QB
Mucky Tundra (23h) : Wait for real? Didn't he just get an extension two years ago?
Zero2Cool (23h) : 49ers gonna trade Deebo. Interesting
TheKanataThrilla (23h) : Replays always never seem to show the holdings
TheKanataThrilla (23h) : Great throw by Hurts
Mucky Tundra (23h) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)
Mucky Tundra (23h) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : I think some of his coaches told scouts to stay away
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : the street racing incident+conditioning and motivation problems
beast (10-Feb) : Then Carter was street racing, where the other car crashed and people died... and other teams were scared to pick Carter for some reason
beast (10-Feb) : I think the Saints traded up, giving their next year 1st to the Eagles, and then they sucked and Eagles got the 10th overall pick
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : wtf Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Getting Carter and Nolan Smith in the first round in 2023 was pretty darn good
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : for some reason i'm thinking of a draft where the Eagles where in the mid 20s and a top player fell all the way to them
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think so. I would need to look it up. Think it may have been Carolina's pick.
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : i'm not sure who i'm thinking of now
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : oh fuck me i messed that up
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Jordan Davis was 13th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Carter was 9th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles had 15th and 10th selections, moved to 13 and 9 to get Davis and Carter back to back
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles traded up for Carter, didn't they?
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Obviously he was a huge risk but getting a top 5 talent on the dline in the mid 20s is fortuitous
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Jalen Carter falling into their lap certainly helps
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : And we could only wish to have this type of D
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : It's not like Philly has had low draft picks, but has managed to get themselves a top notch pass rush. We spend so much draft capital of D
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : another crap halftime show
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think it is over, but then I think of Atlanta and want Philly to go in with the same intensity in the second half
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : And with a Pass Rush that might as well be on a milk cartoon and no Jaire
Martha Careful (10-Feb) : I cant help but feel good about how well the Packers D played in Philly during the playoffs
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : this game is over
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : This might be the kill shot here
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : oh that's such a bad penalty for KC after getting the 3rd down stop
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Philly DL has come to play
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