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13 years ago
Even if piracy and copyright infringement really were bad things, SOPA and PIPA aren't the right tools for the job. Congress, as usual, has let lobbyists and special interest group do its thinking for it (just like they did with the Patriot Act). Neither SOPA nor PIPA will stop piracy. What they will do is make it even easier for corporations (not government; not law enforcement; but corporations) to go after websites like YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and, yes, PackersHome and SUE them or force them to shut down for perceived copyright infringement.

You think the NFL would hesitate for one minute to shut this place down to stop the gameday streams? I don't.
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13 years ago
if u do nothing else

at least sign this

https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/ 
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dhazer
13 years ago
anyone else notice how google and others are fighting this bill? That's why the logo is blacked out on the google home page of you were wondering.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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13 years ago
So far 3 of the bill's co-sponsors have pulled their support. The fight's not over yet, but the public is making itself heard, at least...
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anyone else notice how google and others are fighting this bill? That's why the logo is blacked out on the google home page of you were wondering.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Damn near every major internet company is fighting this

wikipedia completely took down their english section of the site for 24 hours

this is just the beginning of what sites will do to fight it
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Pack93z
13 years ago
Sooner or later an issue is going to stop the mass public from putting their head down and taking it from those that continue to run this country through money... and it is going to start the restoration of the roots this country was founded upon.

Either that.. or history will repeat itself, and sooner or later it will lead to the fall of yet another nation..

Could this be the issue?

One would think the cost of healthcare would have done it, but alas the mass of public continue to play the role of the sheep grazing with it sight line in a very tight local proximity.

The internet is the last of the true freedoms we are allowed.. without the overall corporate America being able to fleece the common person. Currently it is only limited to the ISP's.. the rest of the corporate America wants their slice of that action.

Short of breathing air... everyone has there hand in our pockets for something.. heaven forbid that we have one last frontier that is relatively free of their grasp.

Really boggles my mind that we cannot get one political candidate to run that hasn't been corrupted by the process. Talk about a broken system.. it is to the point where corporate America is openly buying the law making process.

So again.. maybe this movement with reshape the way we pressure our elected officials and say enough is enough.

"I'll have a cup of tea and tell you of my dreaming

Dreaming is free"
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
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13 years ago
I'm against SOPA and similar sillinesses as a matter of knee-jerk belief.

And everyone knows what I think of relying on the guvmint to make things better.

On the other hand, I also don't trust Google much either. (I'm not sure about Jimmy Wales.)

The solution is not in "better" government or "better" politicians.

The solution is in less government.

The solution is not in changing who is in power. The solution is in finding ways to limit the ability of anyone to exert power.

Until Americans realize and believe these things, there is no solution. At best we're pushing the day of implosion off a bit longer (when it will be even bigger).


And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Pack93z
13 years ago



The solution is not in "better" government or "better" politicians.

The solution is in less government.

The solution is not in changing who is in power. The solution is in finding ways to limit the ability of anyone to exert power.

Until Americans realize and believe these things, there is no solution. At best we're pushing the day of implosion off a bit longer (when it will be even bigger).

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Agreed to a point.. we need to streamline and downsize the mass of government.. but would that process not start with changing the type of politician that takes office. One the can readily see the issue and not be corrupted by the process?

That is unless "we the people" force massive changes and halt the never ending campaign process and boot them all out. Realistically, without overthrowing the government, I don't see that happening rapidly.



"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
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Agreed to a point.. we need to streamline and downsize the mass of government.. but would that process not start with changing the type of politician that takes office. One the can readily see the issue and not be corrupted by the process?

That is unless "we the people" force massive changes and halt the never ending campaign process and boot them all out. Realistically, without overthrowing the government, I don't see that happening rapidly.


Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



To paraphrase P J O'Rourke, politicians are just the whores. If you want to get rid of prostitution, you have to get rid of the johns. The reason we have whores for politicians is that that's what "we, the people" keep asking for free sex: "Do this for me, baby, give me a blowjob. Someone else will pay for it." We bitch and moan about politicians, and then we turn around and demand high end call girl service to provide each of our kinks.

Until we collectively look in the mirror and say, "I gotta stop demanding the government help me get laid," we aren't going to change the politicians.

We're just going to get worse and worse social diseases.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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