TheEngineer
16 years ago



Rodgers would be pissed if we traded R Martin.

"pack93z" wrote:



If the offseason was any lesson here in Green Bay.. players don't run this team.. if moving Martin is a good business decision, then you pull the trigger on the deal regardless of Rodgers personal feelings about it. IMO.


Bishop, Hawk, and Barnett, hmm....
I'll have to think about that one. You are right though that Barnett loves the middle spot too much. And he's dang good at it, so I think he stays there.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Barnett is a heck of a middle backer.. but he also gets shallowed up in the blocking at times as well.. with his speed and agility he would be a prototypical outside backer.. no doubt he has a world of talent. IMO, Bishop or even Hodge would provide more stoutness to the center of the defense.. Bishop and especially Hodge don't have the same type of range to play the outside as say Barnett..

Now before I get pummeled, I not saying move Barnett, I am saying be open to putting the three best players on the field at one time.. IMO, those are the 3 best LB'ers on this squad.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



If we could get a really solid DT, we would have a heck of a 3-4.
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zombieslayer
16 years ago



Now before I get pummeled, I not saying move Barnett, I am saying be open to putting the three best players on the field at one time.. IMO, those are the 3 best LB'ers on this squad.

"pack93z" wrote:



This is a pretty good argument - getting our 3 best LB'ers on the field at the same time.
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago

If we could get a really solid DT, we would have a heck of a 3-4.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



I can't help but think our coaches have incorporated the 3-4 somehow, and they just haven't used it in pre-season yet.

I mean how could they not? We've got a heck of a LB group, the with our top 4 of Hawk/Barnett/Chillar/Popp it should've given our coaches the impetus to find a package other than the 2-4 D to get our LB group on the field even more.

The strong play of Bishop and Hodge should just have hit home the possibilities with our roster of having a 3-4 package....

I swear I'd do back flips (which I can't actually do) if I saw a 3-4 package being used by the Pack on MNF. I'd be like a girl having gotten her first kiss from the boy she likes....
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zombieslayer
16 years ago

If we could get a really solid DT, we would have a heck of a 3-4.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



I can't help but think our coaches have incorporated the 3-4 somehow, and they just haven't used it in pre-season yet.

I mean how could they not? We've got a heck of a LB group, the with our top 4 of Hawk/Barnett/Chillar/Popp it should've given our coaches the impetus to find a package other than the 2-4 D to get our LB group on the field even more.

The strong play of Bishop and Hodge should just have hit home the possibilities with our roster of having a 3-4 package....

I swear I'd do back flips (which I can't actually do) if I saw a 3-4 package being used by the Pack on MNF. I'd be like a girl having gotten her first kiss from the boy she likes....

"TheEngineer" wrote:



If we keep 7 LBs, you can bet your Greg Jennings underoos that we'll incorporate a 3-4 package.
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Bigbyfan
16 years ago

If we could get a really solid DT, we would have a heck of a 3-4.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



I can't help but think our coaches have incorporated the 3-4 somehow, and they just haven't used it in pre-season yet.

I mean how could they not? We've got a heck of a LB group, the with our top 4 of Hawk/Barnett/Chillar/Popp it should've given our coaches the impetus to find a package other than the 2-4 D to get our LB group on the field even more.

The strong play of Bishop and Hodge should just have hit home the possibilities with our roster of having a 3-4 package....

I swear I'd do back flips (which I can't actually do) if I saw a 3-4 package being used by the Pack on MNF. I'd be like a girl having gotten her first kiss from the boy she likes....

"TheEngineer" wrote:



We have done some plays during the preseason where they only use two D-linemen and a ton of LB's so maybe they will do a 3-4
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago

Who are our tradeable assts as cuts etc. take place in the next 24 hrs?

Bishop or Hodge?
Tracy White?
Colledge?
Morency?
Brohm?
KGB?

"minnypacker" wrote:




Bishop and (as Pack93z said) Ruvell. Those are the only two players that might fetch something decent in return based on what they've shown and their physical tools. I'd rather keep Ruvell as insurance, and the fact that he's our QBs 'guy'. I'm a Hodge fan, but Bishop has displayed talent and I wouldn't mind keeping him either.

I don't doubt for a second that Colledge / Brohm would get picked up if released, but I can't see them bringing back anything decent if traded. Colledge is our starter, but highly inconsistent, and I'd be hesitant to give up even an early day 2 pick after Brohm's performances this pre-season.


I can't see anyone offering a fair deal for a 30 something pass-rush specialist that has healed very slowly from off-season surgery.
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago

We have done some plays during the preseason where they only use two D-linemen and a ton of LB's so maybe they will do a 3-4

"Bigbyfan" wrote:



McCarthy actually half-joked about using a 3-4 D before the 49ers game, he said his injuries might force him to play a 3-4.

What struck me as odd was that there was no way McCarthy would do that unless his D had gotten reps in a 3-4. That suggested (to me at least) that at some point this off-season McCarthy might have installed a 3-4 alignment for certain situations.

We have the players, Jenkins/Montgomery/Jolly/Harrell and Pickett might possibly be the NT in the 3-4.
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Bigbyfan
16 years ago

We have done some plays during the preseason where they only use two D-linemen and a ton of LB's so maybe they will do a 3-4

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



McCarthy actually half-joked about using a 3-4 D before the 49ers game, he said his injuries might force him to play a 3-4.

What struck me as odd was that there was no way McCarthy would do that unless his D had gotten reps in a 3-4. That suggested (to me at least) that at some point this off-season McCarthy might have installed a 3-4 alignment for certain situations.

We have the players, Jenkins/Montgomery/Jolly/Harrell and Pickett might possibly be the NT in the 3-4.

"Bigbyfan" wrote:



What about Kampman? He is too good to not have on the field.
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Pack93z
16 years ago

We have done some plays during the preseason where they only use two D-linemen and a ton of LB's so maybe they will do a 3-4

"Bigbyfan" wrote:



McCarthy actually half-joked about using a 3-4 D before the 49ers game, he said his injuries might force him to play a 3-4.

What struck me as odd was that there was no way McCarthy would do that unless his D had gotten reps in a 3-4. That suggested (to me at least) that at some point this off-season McCarthy might have installed a 3-4 alignment for certain situations.

We have the players, Jenkins/Montgomery/Jolly/Harrell and Pickett might possibly be the NT in the 3-4.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



What about Kampman? He is too good to not have on the field.

"Bigbyfan" wrote:



I think the reference was to playing in the middle.. NT.. Jenkins would make another fine end in a 3-4.. Williams will excel at end for the Browns this season in that 3-4.
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16 years ago
Jenkins, Kampman, and Monty are all suited for the 3-4 ends
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