zombieslayer
13 years ago

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You can't forget about the scoring and yardage numbers, because scoring rankings are based on exactly that ...scoring.

You are comparing 4 games(this year) to 16 games(last year). So let me do the work for you.

In 2010 Packers faced The Eagles, Bills, Bears, and Lions the 1st 4 weeks.

The Packers scored 116pts and gave up 73pts and went 3-1.

In 2011 Packers have faced The Saints, Panthers, Bears and Broncos

The Packers have scored 148 pts and have given up 107pts.

107-73= 27/4 = just to use a round number, The Packers have given up 7pts more a game through 4 games.

148-116=32/4=, The Packers are scoring 8pts more a game through 4 games.

It's hard to factor in The different teams, but I just don't see what all the panic is about, Packers are giving up more poins but they are also scoring more.

With every game, there are mistakes made, but there is also film of theses mistakes. I have full confidence in Dom and crew that the defense is going to tighten down as the year proceeds.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Actually, these are good stats here. In my analysis of SB winners, almost every SB winner was a + 100 team, meaning scoring 100 more points than their opponents.

After 4 games last year, we were a +43 team. After 4 games this year, we're a + 41 team. So we're 2 points worse than last year. Not bad.

Going forward, either our O needs to pick up or our D needs to get more solid. We're well on pace to being a +100 team though so we should be good. I'd really like our D to improve though as also in my SB analysis, I showed how rare it is for a SB winning team to win the SB who doesn't have a top 5 D. For example last year, we were the #2 D and the Steelers #1 D.

I'm talking points, not yards. Yards are irrelevant.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

Actually, these are good stats here. In my analysis of SB winners, almost every SB winner was a Slapnuts00 team, meaning scoring 100 more points than their opponents.

After 4 games last year, we were a +43 team. After 4 games this year, we're a +41 team. So we're 2 points worse than last year. Not bad.

Going forward, either our O needs to pick up or our D needs to get more solid. We're well on pace to being a Slapnuts00 team though so we should be good. I'd really like our D to improve though as also in my SB analysis, I showed how rare it is for a SB winning team to win the SB who doesn't have a top 5 D. For example last year, we were the #2 D and the Steelers #1 D.

I'm talking points, not yards. Yards are irrelevant.

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That is the best glitch ever. +1.
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Greg C.
13 years ago

For the record, the Rams had the number 4 scoring defense in 1999 behind just Jacksonville, Buffalo and Tampa Bay.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 


Thanks. I had forgotten about that. I guess that just leaves the Saints, who I think gave up quite a few points during their championship year, but got a lot of turnovers.

To answer buckeye, I'm not panicking, and I don't think anybody else is either. I'm just pointing out that the defense is not playing nearly as well as it did last year. I think it needs to improve. But I'm still enjoying the heck out of this 4-0 start.
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13 years ago

That is the best glitch ever. Slapnuts.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



The Faux pas of Kevin's over analyzing system. 0+100
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longtimefan
13 years ago
Not sure if it was seen on tv...

But Driver got announced last so he could be recognized for being the Packers leader in yards
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
After this game, Rodgers is on pace to throw 20 more touchdown passes and almost 1,400 more yards than last year, while rushing for 4 more touchdowns. He is on pace to throw 3 fewer interceptions with a 6 percent higher completion percentage than last year. It would seem that we are watching a season for the ages.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

The Faux pas of Kevin's over analyzing system. 0Slapnuts00

Originally Posted by: wpr 


I frickin LOVE IT!!! [happy]
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longtimefan
13 years ago

We only allow a 89.0 QB Rating (which with the QB stat explosion around the league is a solid number). The reason we're ranked is 31st is because teams have been forced to throw at us for most of each game, and the ranking is taken from yards allowed. That's also why the run defense is number one.

Which brings me to my final wondering... why can't you quote "Rush Defense = 1st" and be happy, but instead make a post like this?

Edit: Not saying I'm particularly happy about our Pass D because I think it's the single weakest aspect of the team right now, but it's nowhere near terrible.

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland 




Rushing yards per game, we are 2nd

tied for 1st with int, 5th in forced fumbles, 14th in points allowed ( but that does include the NO punt return for a TD)



Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Rushing yards per game, we are 2nd

tied for 1st with int, 5th in forced fumbles, 14th in points allowed ( but that does include the NO punt return for a TD)

Originally Posted by: longtimefan 



When excluding the Punt Return, were all other teams Punt Returns excluded as well in this calculation ranking?

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13 years ago
Whenever people say "dont worry" about the defense, I can't help thinking back to the days of Lynn Dickey.

The offense could score at will. And for the team to win, they had to.

And they didn't sniff a Super Bowl.

I'm not saying our defense is as bad as those defenses were. Their performance last year tells me they can be cut a bit of slack, especially early in the season after a lockout.

But I am worried.

I do believe there are some things that are going to have to improve, and improve substantially, before the season is out. Or what may be the greatest offensive team in history is going to be watching the Super Bowl on TV this year:

1. Too many big plays are being given up.
2. Too many easy 8-20 yard passes over the middle are being completed. And I'm not going to blame Peprah for all of this. Our LBs also need to do better, and so do Burnett and our nickel/dime backs. So does Sir Chuck.
3. Too few sacks are being made. Too little pressure on the QB. Wynn has had moments, but Jenkins' contributions haven't come close to being replaced yet.
4. Too many can't-get-off-the-field long drives are being put together by opposing teams.

Season is still young, but things need fixing or the wins won't keep coming. No matter how many records Aaron the First and the royal Princes Donald, Greg, James, Randall, Jordy, and Jermichael put together.

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