Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

Have you seen plays where they've awarded a catch when the ball popped out out of the player's hands when he hit the ground? I can't recall seeing any, myself.

Originally Posted by: Greg C. 


The problem is how long between the catch and the ball getting knocked out by the ground. I have seen a receiver get 2 feet down in bounds one foot down out of bound and then go down. It was a catch until he hit the ground after he was already out of bounds.

That is crazy.

If they catch is in bounds, the play should be dead when he steps on the boundary. If he goes down after that it should be irrelevant. Because the process of the catch is over before they hit the ground.

Once possesion is established in bounds, it shouldn't matter if the player hits the ground, steps on the boundary or shoots into space, it should be a catch.

They are stretching the process of making a catch past 2 steps and a football move. If they catch the ball, run 3-4 steps and then go down, it shouldn't be an incompletion. If it is in the end zone, it should be a TD.
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dhazer
13 years ago
I believe the rule is if the player is going to the ground he has to maintain control of the ball. Some people are stretching this way to far Finley was going to the ground and did not keep control of the ball so it is an incomplete pass. The Hernandez play was he went to the ground had control of the ball and then had the defender pull the ball out. The main thing was he maintained control of the ball when he went to the ground.
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Greg C.
13 years ago

The problem is how long between the catch and the ball getting knocked out by the ground. I have seen a receiver get 2 feet down in bounds one foot down out of bound and then go down. It was a catch until he hit the ground after he was already out of bounds.

That is crazy.

If they catch is in bounds, the play should be dead when he steps on the boundary. If he goes down after that it should be irrelevant. Because the process of the catch is over before they hit the ground.

Once possesion is established in bounds, it shouldn't matter if the player hits the ground, steps on the boundary or shoots into space, it should be a catch.

They are stretching the process of making a catch past 2 steps and a football move. If they catch the ball, run 3-4 steps and then go down, it shouldn't be an incompletion. If it is in the end zone, it should be a TD.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



I think most people would agree that your rule would be the better one. Personally, I could go either way. As I wrote earlier, I do think that the current rule, although a bit weird, leaves less of a gray area, so there are actually fewer controversies.

I disagree with you a bit when you mention a receiver running 3-4 steps before going down and it being ruled incomplete. If the receiver runs 3-4 steps with the ball, it's clearly a catch and is consistently ruled that way. But it's not a catch if the player is knocked off balance before securing the ball and takes steps as he's falling, then the ball pops out. There is a difference between running and falling.

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