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Originally Posted by: wpr 

It appears Mike McCarthy is starting to lean toward the veteran T.J. Lang in the battle at left guard. Derek Sherrod has been working with the No. 1 offense most of camp, but that could change soon.

"I really like how T.J.'s come to camp," McCarthy said after Wednesday's practice. "We have a history with T.J. He's made a jump from last year. That's clearly evident. Derek's really just trying to get familiar. He's going through a little bit of what Bryan (Bulaga) went through last year. He's not playing as fast as he'd like to. He's not reacting to things as quickly as he'd like to. It's a little more thinking than the finishing and urgency you're looking for.

"They're both young players that need their work. We're going to take our time with it."

Lang has outplayed Sherrod throughout camp, appearing much more comfortable in the offense. Friday's preseason game against Arizona could turn this competition into his job to lose.