Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Well there were things with no ifs in it as well. Don't you remember the teams the Packers played this last season? ... and I thought the teams the Packers faced with out Jenkins were said before.

Originally Posted by: beast 



So I'm wanting to know the games the Packers played without Cullen Jenkins and you insult me by asking if I remember the teams the Packers played last season? Surely, you realize there is a difference, right? Oh, yes you do realize that because you followed the insult with what was actually inquired upon in the first place. Had to get that jab in there huh? [duh]


Anyhow, Packers still got some sacks without Jenkins.

Vikings 1.0
Lions 2.0
Patriots 3.0
Giants 1 .0
Bears 6.0

13 sacks in 5 games without Cullen Jenkins
34 sacks in 11 games with Cullen Jenkins

http://www.nfl.com/teams/greenbaypackers/statistics?season=2010&team=GB&seasonType=REG 

Dead ass tired, so the math is probably wrong. I think this was all said before so who knows. I thought the sack totals would be worse without Cullen in the lineup.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

I worry about letting Cullen go. I don't like the concept. Just so you know, I liked Neal just fine.


I bet (somehow) we keep him, and I think we should.


I'd rather skimp elsewhere. You know how tight I am with GB's money 🤫

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Barring Cullen Jenkins giving the Packers a helluva discount, I think he's gone. I don't know the cap information either. I also think one thing that makes the Packers want to retain Cullen Jenkins is the lack of Johnny Jolly being smart.

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adroge
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13 years ago
First off the Patriots only really scored 17 points. 14 points were because of an int and a special teams play. Against the vikings the packers only had three defensive lineman.

I don't actually think the packers were better without Jenkins. I think Capers just really understands how to game plan and use his talent to their best abilities. They just played better as a unit towards the end of the season. I don't really think it had anything to do with Jenkin's absence.

I would also like people to recognize how good of job Mike Trgovac has done. He's a very good coach. I'll make a similar case for the outside linebackers coming up.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
No question, I think the Packers are better WITH Cullen Jenkins. I'm just not sure the money he's going to command is something the Packers are able to dish out. And with his recent injuries, I'm not sure how wise of an investment it would be.
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beast
13 years ago
Yeah I guess I did 😣 I was pretty frustrated at the moment... sorry about that

And looks like your numbers are right and mine were wrong with giving one Lions sack to to the other side.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Yeah I guess I did 😣 I was pretty frustrated at the moment... sorry about that

And looks like your numbers are right and mine were wrong with giving one Lions sack to to the other side.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Hey, it happens to us all. All I ask is that it doesn't carry over to the next post. We all know I get my jabs in there too. As long as we all don't take it personal, no harm no foul. :)


I kind of winged it with the numbers. I was talking to three people on chat, so don't go so quick to say my numbers are right, lol.
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beast
13 years ago

I would also like people to recognize how good of job Mike Trgovac has done. He's a very good coach. I'll make a similar case for the outside linebackers coming up.

Originally Posted by: adroge 



I agree, I don't think Trgovac gets the credit he should... the guy was a very good defensive coordinator from 03 to 08 with the Panthers... because he left the Panthers before Jon Fox did people assume he got fired and replaced which wasn't the case at all. Jon Fox wanted to resign him with the Panthers and wanted him to be the new Broncos defensive coordinator... I'm not sure if he saw the writing on the wall about the rumors Fox would be fired if he had another bad season but there were a couple of reasons he has stated for leaving the coordinator job and coming to Green Bay...

1) Trgovac said he's always wanted to work with Capers and he had a chance to.
2) His wife made great friends in GB in 1999 and she always wanted to go back
3) Wanted to take a step back from football to spend more time with his family

Also he and Mike McCarthy probably at least knew of each other if not friends. Both worked for the Packers for a season in 1999 and then in 03 and 04 faced off as opposing division coordinators, Mike McCarthy with the Saints and Trgovac with the Panthers.

In 03 the Panthers went to the Super Bowl (lost to the Patriots (who might of cheated with spygate)) and so the Panthers beat the Saints that year both times 19 to 13 and 23 to 20.

In 04 they split the games 32 to 21 Panthers win. 21 to 18 Saints win.

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beast
13 years ago

I kind of winged it with the numbers. I was talking to three people on chat, so don't go so quick to say my numbers are right, lol.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



well I had the same numbers other than one less with the Lions game and gave it to another game... I went back and looked and their were two the Lions game (like you said) and I only had them down for one. So I must of misplaced it in the wrong game.
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