macbob
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13 years ago

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Breaking-down-Matt-Flynn-vs-the-Patriots.html?team=115 

Let’s go back to the video today and take a look at Green Bay’s Matt Flynn vs. New England from the 2010 season. With starting QB Aaron Rodgers on the sidelines, we got a chance to see Flynn play on the primetime stage vs. a good football team—and produce.

Today, I want to focus on his 66-yard TD pass to WR James Jones. The route, the defensive scheme and what we are seeing on the video replay that we can learn from. Check out the replay and then let’s get into some coaching points.





Coaching points:

Personnel and alignment: Posse (3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB) on the field for the Packers—a personnel grouping we see often from Mike McCarthy’s offense. But the key here is the alignment. I call this “Doubles Slot Open." A 3x1 set with the TE flexed out to take the spot we would normally see the X receiver (split end) align. This gives Green Bay a three-receiver look to the open side of the formation and multiple route combinations to choose from.

Coverage scheme: Again, we see 2-man (2 deep safeties, trail-man technique underneath) vs. the Packers. Although this is a common coverage in the NFL, I see it played much more vs. Green Bay. Yes, you can take away the vertical schemes up the field, but in the plays I have broken down here at the NFP, the Packers consistently rip this coverage apart. And, as we will see, it often puts stress of the safeties to play with sound technique.

Route concept: First, look at the game situation: 3rd and 7. Now go back to the route scheme. From my perspective, Flynn wants to read the inside combination of Jordy Nelson and Donald Driver running the “whip options” (stem inside, break out from the defender's leverage). With the Pats playing 2-man here, the DBs are going to sit hard with inside leverage and this route combination is a solid call on third down. With Jones? A classic double-move ("sluggo''), and a way to clear out the sideline for both Nelson and Driver to work.

Defensive angle to the ball: I talk about this often with safety play, and this is an example of a poor angle to the football. In 2-man, you are taught as a safety to play with enough depth (on top of the numbers) to take a downhill angle to the ball. That’s not what we see here from New England’s Brandon Meriweather. Instead, this is a lateral—or parallel—angle to the point of attack. And that isn’t going to get it done. Not only does Meriweather fail to make the play, he also knocks off the CB.

Ball placement: This is a solid throw from Flynn. He takes a shot down the field in this situation and by putting the ball on the up field shoulder he takes the CB out of the play. As we said above, 2-man requires the underneath defenders to play in a “trail-man” position. And vs. any vertical route, the CB is already sitting low on the receiver. Add that to the bad angle from the safety and we see an explosive play from the Packers.

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StoicFire
13 years ago
I didn't think this was really a spectacular play. Well placed throw by Flynn, no drop from Jones... The protection was good (though it was only a 3 man rush). The real key was clearly the poor position and angle by Brandon Meriweather which led to the collision with Devin McCourty. Thanks for the free score Meriweather!
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Since69
13 years ago
Man I can't wait to see my guys on the field again!
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Pack93z
13 years ago

I didn't think this was really a spectacular play. Well placed throw by Flynn, no drop from Jones... The protection was good (though it was only a 3 man rush). The real key was clearly the poor position and angle by Brandon Meriweather which led to the collision with Devin McCourty. Thanks for the free score Meriweather!

Originally Posted by: mcaldie 





I love this post.. for one distinct reason.



For almost 20 years now.. this can be seen as just another play.. when many a franchise see these types of plays with far less frequency.



We here in Green Bay have become very spoiled by more times than not, very productive offenses.. and it feel oh so good.
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beast
13 years ago
I felt the title of the article, "Breaking down Matt Flynn vs. the Patiots", to be very misleading... the article broke down a play... it didn't break down Matt Flynn...

I was excited when I thought I was gonna read a break down of Flynn in that game...

Anyways after that game I thought Flynn has improved but still has a long way to go, if he's gonna be a starter in the future.
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Pack93z
13 years ago



Anyways after that game I thought Flynn has improved but still has a long way to go, if he's gonna be a starter in the future.

Originally Posted by: beast 





IMO.. for his first extended game action (real bullets flying)... I thought he played exceptionally well. He is never going to be that guy the uncoils his hose and makes all the throws.. but I think in another year of seasoning.. that he can become a solid QB that most franchises would readily accept as their starter.



One thing the MM has proven, IMO, his that he can develop QB's. Look at the strides Harrell took last season.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

I didn't think this was really a spectacular play. Well placed throw by Flynn, no drop from Jones... The protection was good (though it was only a 3 man rush). The real key was clearly the poor position and angle by Brandon Meriweather which led to the collision with Devin McCourty. Thanks for the free score Meriweather!

Originally Posted by: mcaldie 



Still, you have to exploit your opportunities when they're there. It's just like if you're a boxer and your opponent drops his hands and looks away. If you don't throw the punch there, you missed your opportunity. Kudos to Flynn for seeing it.
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StoicFire
13 years ago

We here in Green Bay have become very spoiled by more times than not, very productive offenses.. and it feel oh so good.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 




Agreed. I do feel spoiled at times by some of the incredible things that our offense is capable of. Especially in the last two years under Rodgers. His decision making and accuracy are unbelievable at times, and I can't wait to see him (and the team) continue to get better.


Still, you have to exploit your opportunities when they're there. It's just like if you're a boxer and your opponent drops his hands and looks away. If you don't throw the punch there, you missed your opportunity. Kudos to Flynn for seeing it.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 




To be fair it was still definitely a good toss and props to Flynn for capitalizing on the situation. My intent wasn't to downplay anything that we did on that play. I was just a little surprised that this particular play got selected for a breakdown... that is all.


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macbob
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13 years ago

To be fair it was still definitely a good toss and props to Flynn for capitalizing on the situation. My intent wasn't to downplay anything that we did on that play. I was just a little surprised that this particular play got selected for a breakdown... that is all.

Originally Posted by: mcaldie 



Matt Bowen asks readers to suggest plays they'd like to see analyzed. I don't know if this was a Bowen pick or a reader suggestion.
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