Receiver Analysis: Why The Packers Need Randall Cobb· Page 2

nerdmann
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13 years ago

I think it was JustJeff at packersnews.net who pointed out that a lot of Jones' troubles seem to be with over the shoulder catches that require a completely different hand position than normal catches (index fingers and thumbs touching in a diamond shape). Over the shoulder you end up catching with your thumbs pointing out instead of in.

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau

Sounds like something that can be worked on then.

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wpr
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13 years ago

#12

Sounds like something that can be worked on then.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

After 4 years in the pros, 5 years of college and 4 years of high school how much longer does it take to learn how to catch a ball?

zombieslayer
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13 years ago

#13

After 4 years in the pros, 5 years of college and 4 years of high school how much longer does it take to learn how to catch a ball?

Originally Posted by: wpr

Plus Dad throwing him the football for 5 years before HS.

It may be a lost cause. Thus is why I support Jordy over JJ as although Jordy doesn't get JJ's separation, he seems to hang on to the ball when the game is on the line.

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DakotaT
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13 years ago

#14

The slant for 6 against the Gmen is why I like Jorde better. That and his downfield blocking is superlative. Jones will be just fine playing for another team, just so his agent isn't stupid enough to sign with a team that has dogshit for a QB.

wpr
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13 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

Well I assume that dad and even his HS coach did not teach proper technique. I did a quick check and I see that for at least part of the time in HS he was the QB. So I will cut him some slack and say he did so for most of HS and prior.
But the point is (and I like James. I hope they can keep him another year or two.) that the technique for how to catch the ball is something he should have learned a long time ago regardless if it was 4 years or 7 years ago. (I will also ignore his RS and RS freshman years and say he was still gong to be a QB at that time.)

nerdmann
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13 years ago

#16

Look at how raw DD was when he came into the league. Guys can work on stuff and get better.

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wpr
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13 years ago

#17

Look at how raw DD was when he came into the league. Guys can work on stuff and get better.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Certainly. I think players can improve every single year. I am not saying JJ can't. I am saying that this is something I am sure the coaches would have been teaching on the ~~first~~ second day of camp in year 1.

but then again Donald was a 7th round pick and he was a 3rd.

Nonstopdrivel
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13 years ago

#18

Jones' troubles seem to be with over the shoulder catches that require a completely different hand position than normal catches (index fingers and thumbs touching in a diamond shape). Over the shoulder you end up catching with your thumbs pointing out instead of in.

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau

Except that Jones also has problems when turned completely around and facing the quarterback. For some reason, he often simply forgets to bring his hands together, presenting them instead flat-palmed to the ball, so that it just bounces off. Watch the complete Super Bowl game file I posted -- you will see this quite vividly. He seems to have a significant problem with focus.

Dexter_Sinister
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13 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

Antonio Freeman had a lot of problems dropping easy passes and making the impossible catch. Then he broke his arm. After he came back he was catching everything.

Maybe we need to take James out and break his arm.

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azrunning
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13 years ago

#20

I definitely think it is a concentration thing. I think he has decent hands and that makes him think he'll automatically catch it. He ends up looking where to run too soon.

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