When it comes to the all-time quarterbacks, who is the winner?

macbob
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13 years ago

Subject of the article was a little misleading. What he's actually ranking is the team with the top Top 5 QBs.

I found the rankings very subjective with little provided to back up the rankings. Little disagreement with the Packers top 4, but not sure about Majic as #5--I personally liked him, but not sure he was the 5th best in Packers history. However, I can't quibble with the overall results, so Dave Dameshek must have done something right...lol...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8201ffa0/article/when-it-comes-to-the-alltime-quarterbacks-who-is-the-winner

by Dave Dameshek

Every football fan knows that Penn State is Linebacker U. and that USC is Tailback U. So why don't we know definitively which NFL franchise has had the most success at a given position? (That was a rhetorical question. I don't know the answer.) Here's what I do know, though: We need to fix this right now.

We'll start with quarterback. And, since this is the NFL, we'll use the NFL's current playoff structure for our pseudo-tournament. I've listed the guys I think rank as the five best at the position for each franchise, then ranked which team's quintet "wins" their division. Just like the NFL Playoffs, I've also selected two wild cards.

NFL "Best QB" Standings

(x - division winner; y - wild card)

NFC East

x - Dallas Cowboys (Troy Aikman, Roger Staubach, Tony Romo, Danny White, Don Meredith)
y - Washington Redskins (Sammy Baugh, Sonny Jurgensen, Joe Theismann, Mark Rypien, Billy Kilmer)
Philadelphia Eagles (Donovan McNabb, Randall Cunningham, Ron Jaworski, Norm Van Brocklin, Michael Vick)
New York Giants (Phil Simms, Eli Manning, Y.A. Tittle, Charlie Conerly, Kerry Collins)

NFC North

x - Green Bay Packers (Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Bart Starr, Lynn Dickey, Don Majkowski)
y - Minnesota Vikings (Fran Tarkenton, Daunte Culpepper, Tommy Kramer, Brett Favre, Randall Cunningham)
Chicago Bears (Sid Luckman, Jim McMahon, Jay Cutler, Jim Harbaugh, Erik Kramer)
Detroit Lions (Bobby Layne, Gary Danielson, Scott Mitchell, Erik Kramer, Rodney Peete)

NFC South

x - New Orleans Saints (Drew Brees, Archie Manning, Bobby Hebert, Aaron Brooks, Jim Everett)
Atlanta Falcons (Matt Ryan, Michael Vick, Steve Bartkowski, Chris Miller, Chris Chandler)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Doug Williams, Brad Johnson, Josh Freeman, Vinny Testaverde, Trent Dilfer)
Carolina Panthers (Jake Delhomme, Kerry Collins, Steve Beuerlein, Rodney Peete, Matt Moore)

NFC West

x - San Francisco 49ers (Joe Montana, Steve Young, John Brodie, Jeff Garcia, Y.A. Tittle)
St. Louis Rams (Kurt Warner, Roman Gabriel, Jim Everett, Pat Haden, Marc Bulger)
Arizona Cardinals (Jim Hart, Neil Lomax, Kurt Warner, Jake Plummer, Charley Johnson)
Seattle Seahawks (Matt Hasselbeck, Dave Krieg, Jim Zorn, Warren Moon, Jon Kitna)

AFC East

x - Miami Dolphins (Dan Marino, Bob Griese, Jay Fiedler, David Woodley, Earl Morrall)
y - New England Patriots (Tom Brady, Drew Bledsoe, Steve Grogan, Tony Eason, Babe Parilli)
New York Jets (Joe Namath, Ken O'Brien, Chad Pennington, Vinny Testaverde, Mark Sanchez)
Buffalo Bills (Jim Kelly, Joe Ferguson, Jack Kemp, Doug Flutie, Drew Bledsoe)

AFC North

x - Pittsburgh Steelers (Ben Roethlisberger, Terry Bradshaw, Neil O'Donnell, Kordell Stewart, Bobby Layne)
Cleveland Browns (Otto Graham, Bernie Kosar, Brian Sipe, Frank Ryan, Vinny Testaverde)
Cincinnati Bengals (Ken Anderson, Boomer Esiason, Carson Palmer, Greg Cook, Jeff Blake)
Baltimore Ravens (Joe Flacco, Trent Dilfer, Steve McNair, Kyle Boller, Vinny Testaverde)

AFC South

x - Indianpolis Colts (Johnny Unitas, Peyton Manning, Bert Jones, Earl Morrall, Jim Harbaugh)
Tennessee Titans (Warren Moon, Steve McNair, Dan Pastorini, George Blanda, Kerry Collins)
Jacksonville Jaguars (Mark Brunell, David Garrard, Byron Leftwich, Quinn Gray, Jonathan Quinn)
Houston Texans (Matt Schaub, Sage Rosenfels, David Carr, Tony Banks, Dave Ragone)

AFC West

x - San Diego Chargers (Dan Fouts, Phil Rivers, John Hadl, Drew Brees, Stan Humphries)
y - Oakland Raiders (Kenny Stabler, Jim Plunkett, Rich Gannon, Daryle Lamonica, Tom Flores)
Kansas City Chiefs (Len Dawson, Trent Green, Bill Kenney, Joe Montana, Steve Bono)
Denver Broncos (John Elway, Jay Cutler, Jake Plummer, Craig Morton, Brian Griese)

Wild-card round

NFC
Cowboys over Vikings
Redskins over Saints

AFC
Steelers over Patriots
Dolphins over Raiders

Divisional round

NFC
49ers over Redskins
Packers over Cowboys

AFC
Chargers over Dolphins
Colts over Steelers

NFC Championship Game

Packers over 49ers

AFC Championship Game

Colts over Chargers

Super Bowl

Packers vs. Colts (Site: Heinz Field -- why, you ask? Because the banks of the Three Rivers are the birthplace for Hall of Famers Unitas, Namath, Montana, Marino and Kelly.)

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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky

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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.

beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?

beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

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