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NFL to punish teams for flagrant hits 

The NFL will punish teams next season if their players commit multiple flagrant hits that result in fines.

The punishment will be financial, although league vice president Adolpho Birch said Tuesday he didn't rule out Commissioner Roger Goodell applying further sanctions such as stripping clubs of draft choices.

Citing the "notion of club accountability," Birch said details such as the amount of the fines against clubs, or how many player fines would trigger punishment, have not been determined.

"As a club's total increases to a certain threshold, we will enforce some ... payback to encourage clubs to stay below that threshold," Birch said. "We're looking at a system similar to one we instituted a couple years ago with off-field conduct."

The NFL began a crackdown on illegal hits, particularly those to defenseless players, last October. It threatened suspensions, but no players had to sit out games. However, Ray Anderson, the league's chief disciplinarian, has said suspensions will be considered for egregious hits this season.

Now, clubs as well as the players are being put on notice that illegal hits will result in substantial discipline.

Birch would not identify which teams from 2010 would have been subject to fines had the policy been in place, but did say at least three teams might have been punished. One player, Pittsburgh All-Pro linebacker James Harrison, was fined $100,000 for flagrant hits last season.

"We'll check the number of fines and the level of fines going out for infractions that relate to various player safety violations," Birch said. "Particularly head and helmet issues."

The 32 owners voted unanimously Tuesday to approve rules amendments for player safety, including a measure aimed at keeping a player from launching himself into a defenseless opponent. A 15-yard penalty will result for anyone who leaves both feet before contact to spring forward and upward into an opponent and delivers a blow to the helmet with any part of his helmet.

Such tackles will also be subject to fines.

The definition of a defenseless receiver already has been extended. Now, a receiver who has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a runner even if both feet are on the ground is considered defenseless.

Defenseless players cannot be hit in the head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm or shoulder. The definition of such players now includes those throwing a pass; attempting or completing a catch without having time to ward off or avoid contact; a runner whose forward progress has been stopped by a tackler; kickoff or punt returners while the ball is in the air; kickers or punters during a kick or a return; a quarterback during a change of possession; a player who receives a blindside block from a blocker moving toward his own end zone.

Penalized players are subject to being ejected for flagrant fouls.

"This should permanently change the mentality of a defensive player trying to loosen the ball to change your target point," said competition committee co-chairman Rich McKay, president of the Atlanta Falcons.

Also, hits to the head of a passer that are not considered "forcible" blows will not be penalized.

"We are not saying to take the physicality out of the game in any way, shape or form," McKay said. "There are still lots of hits that are legal."

Separately, the owners were "comprehensively" briefed on the labor situation, NFL lead negotiator Jeff Pash said. Those briefings took up the entire afternoon.

But Pash reiterated that no contingency plans for a shortened season were discussed.

"Our contingency plan, first, last and ongoing," he said, "is to negotiate an agreement with the players association. So any opening of training camps is based on a collectively bargained agreement."

Colts owner Jim Irsay said something needs to be in place by July 4 to avoid jeopardizing the regular season. Irsay estimated a $1 billion loss in revenues if that doesn't happen.

"If you miss those preseason games, or a game or two (of the regular schedule), or start late," Irsay said, "you have lost significant money, in excess of $1 billion."

The league also canceled next month's rookie symposium, the first league event called off because of the lockout.

"We waited as long as we possibly could," Birch said. "The rookie symposium is an extremely large, complex event that requires a lot of people from an attendance standpoint. Based on the uncertainty in the labor situation, it's to the point we needed to be fair to those who would come to help us put it on."

The symposium, which was to begin June 26 in Canton, Ohio, instructs rookies in money management and life skills and allows them to meet current and former players.

Teams and their draftees have not been allowed to communicate since the NFL gained a stay in court upholding the lockout. The league's appeal of an injunction lifting it will be heard in U.S. District Court on June 3.

Birch also confirmed that using the World Anti-Doping Agency to administer the league's drug policy is a possibility.

"From a procedural standpoint, we need to look at those options. That would be one option," he said. "We are certainly looking into that to see what that means for us and to see what that does to advance the idea that the NFL remains the leader in this area. What that means, we'll find out, but we are going to take a look at it."




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13 years ago
Wow....the NFL finds another way to make money....whoda thunk it?

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13 years ago

Wow....the NFL finds another way to make money....whoda thunk it?

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



wouldn't that be funny? The owners back down on the labor dispute and have the commish fine the sh!~ out the players every week and recoup their losses that way.:-"
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13 years ago
Not one of his better articles, and he was taking significant blow-back in the blog. I'll post the first one following Bowen's article, but the rest of the discussion can be found at the link.

Back in the real-old days when I was growing up, defenders tackled by planting their shoulder pads into the opposing player and wrapping him up. Part of the technique involved which side you wanted your head to be on and consequently which shoulder you wanted to hit with.

I was trying to think back to when things changed to where you planted your helmet in the opposing player. My memory may be faulty, but I think it was around the time they put the padding on top of the shoulder pads at the back of the neck, to protect the defenders from injury/paralysis by preventing their heads from being bent back too far.

It seems to me the defenders took that change designed to increase their safety and are using it as freedom to use their helmets as weapons. I'd like to see football go back to a shoulder pad tackle--you still had punishing hits, but they were lower on the body and a player wasn't launching himself through the air, head first, like a spear/missile.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Are-the-Steelers-being-targeted-by-the-NFL.html 

Are the Steelers being targeted by the NFL?

Of course they are--and it's bad for football.

By Matt Bowen

Let’s get right to the point on this Sunday afternoon: the NFL is targeting the Pittsburgh Steelers defense. That is going to happen when you consistently finish off wide receivers and play with an intimidating style when the football is in the air.

And the new proposed rule changes for illegal hits are bad for NFL football—especially defenses that play with “controlled violence.”

I understand that Steelers chairman Dan Rooney has tried to slow down the idea that his club is the reason for the proposed rule that would impose fines (and possible lost draft picks) to an organization for repeated illegal hits.

But we should all see what is going on here with the league office and their threats to clean up Sunday afternoons as it applies to Pittsburgh. Use them as a model—or example—of what not to do with your headgear and shoulder pads on game day.

However, the Steelers style of play is the exact reason I look at them as a coach’s dream.

Beyond the X’s and Os of coordinator Dick LeBeau (that are still copied throughout the league) and the talent, I see a unit that plays with an attitude. That shows up on tape in every film room across the NFL and it forces offensive players to think twice about going across the middle of the field.

You are going to get hit when you play the Steelers. Harrison, Woodley, Clark, Polamalu, etc. Just a few of the names on this defense that come to the stadium ready to play physical football.

I’m not trying to stand behind cheap shots and intentional hits that are aimed to hurt an opposing player. Instead, this is about good, clean football. But with that comes some helmet-to-helmet contact and big hits that the league is trying to shut down. And there is no real way to fix that with the speed of the game.

But forcing a rule change because of the style of a defense isn’t the right way to do it. Don’t force a team to pullback when they are about to lower their pads on contact. Because it is part of the reason the Steelers are consistently one of the best units in the NFL.

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Good Defense can be played without illegal hits, just ask Green Bay. If Pittsburgh is unable to play in a manner that is both technically sound and effective then that is their own problem. Good athletes not only can use proper technique but also learn to adjust. Every other team in the league has to do it, not just Pittsburgh.

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