macbob
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13 years ago
My personal opinion, 1996 had the better D and better special teams, and I'd give them the advantage based on that. But I still like Edgar's comment and will revise my estimate based on the # of rings the current team earns.
RaiderPride
13 years ago

Hands down, no comparison.... the 96 Packers.
They were so dominate in all aspects of the game.
Only 3 regular season losses (cough one to an unnamed Purple team).

"vikesrule" wrote:



I know the formula you used to come to that conclusion.

The 96 Packer team scored more points (35) in the 96 Superbowl than the Vikings did in four combined Superbowl appearances in 1970,74,75, and 77. (34 total points)

Last years Packer team scored 3 points fewer than the Vikings combined point total in 4 Viking Superbowl appearances.

That is a good formula. Heretofore, I agree with you.

Thank you my friend.

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nerdmann
13 years ago

Low percentage offense? Isn't Rodgers completion percentage higher than Favres? Wouldn't that make it a higher percentage offense than Holmgrens?

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:





Imagine how good Rodgers would look in a high percentage offense.
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wpr
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13 years ago
As I was reading the article I kept thinking that it doesn't matter. Glad to see that Coach Bennett agrees with me.
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Wade
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13 years ago
It's the wrong question, Vandermause. The standard for all GB teams should be the 62-67 packers. The Holmgren/Favre teams were a one-song wonder by comparison.

When McCarthy/Rodgers win multiple championships, then the tough and important comparisons will start.
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porky88
13 years ago

Hands down, no comparison.... the 96 Packers.
They were so dominate in all aspects of the game.
Only 3 regular season losses (cough one to an unnamed Purple team).

And with the likes of:
Edgar Bennett
Dorsey Levens
Antonio Freeman
Keith Jackson
Desmond Howard
Frank Winters

Reggie White
Gilbert Brown
Santana Dotson
LeRoy Butler
George Koonce

and ya....Brett Favre.

The 96 Packers earned and deserved their way into the playoffs and the Super Bowl win.

"vikesrule" wrote:



I don't know about that last part, but I agree that the 96 Packers are the superior team. The only areas where I think the 2010 Packers easily win is in the line backing core, secondary and the receiving core. However, unlike the 96 Packers, the 2010 Packers have the ability to get much better. I think that 96 team was the peak of the Holmgren and Favre era. Obviously it was, but this 2010 team should not be the peak of the McCarthy and Rodgers era. In fact, if it were, the McCarthy and Rodgers era would have underachieved.
wpr
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13 years ago
Nice porky.
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vikesrule
13 years ago


I don't know about that last part, but I agree that the 96 Packers are the superior team. The only areas where I think the 2010 Packers easily win is in the line backing core, secondary and the receiving core. However, unlike the 96 Packers, the 2010 Packers have the ability to get much better. I think that 96 team was the peak of the Holmgren and Favre era. Obviously it was, but this 2010 team should not be the peak of the McCarthy and Rodgers era. In fact, if it were, the McCarthy and Rodgers era would have underachieved.

"porky88" wrote:



There are very few things in the world that are consistent and reliable.
The sun rising in the east, setting in the west and a very knowledgeable and objective analysis from Porky.

Over the years, I have always paid heed to his thoughts. His knowledge of the game is superior and he is probably one of the most unbiased fans of any team that I have ever encountered.

And Porky, while I firmly believe in most of my above post, take the
last comment in that post with a grain of salt.
Unlike you...I am biased and can't resist the temptation for a dig...from time to time. ::wink:

slapnuts to you my amigo
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
I think the question posed by this article suffers from ambiguity.

If we compare how these two teams ranked with respect to their peers, I think the '96 team wins hands down. They had the No. 1 offense, the No. 1 defense, and a pretty nice special teams. The '10 team lead the league in none of these categories.

If we compare the teams against each other -- that is, if we were to put the teams on the same field and play 10 games -- I think the situation becomes less clear.

Brett Favre was a touchdown machine in '96, but we all know how easily rattled he could become toward the end of games. Aaron Rodgers, by contrast, remains cool in the clutch. If the '10 Packers could get up on the '96 Packers early, I have to think they would sneak out a couple of victories on the basis of Favre's tendency to take games on his own shoulders.

Put Reggie White on the opposite side of the line from Brett Favre, and we have Brett Favre vomiting blood on the sidelines. Put Reggie White on the opposite side of the line from Aaron Rodgers, and we might end up with a concussion, but more than likely we end up with a few rushes for first downs.

On the other hand, it is likely that Reggie White would eat this offensive line alive, so I am not sure I'd actually want to make that test.

It is an interesting question. I don't think the answer is as clear cut as some might like to imagine.
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wpr
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13 years ago

I think the question posed by this article suffers from ambiguity.

If we compare how these two teams ranked with respect to their peers, I think the '96 team wins hands down. They had the No. 1 offense, the No. 1 defense, and a pretty nice special teams. The '10 team lead the league in none of these categories.

If we compare the teams against each other -- that is, if we were to put the teams on the same field and play 10 games -- I think the situation becomes less clear.

Brett Favre was a touchdown machine in '96, but we all know how easily rattled he could become toward the end of games. Aaron Rodgers, by contrast, remains cool in the clutch. If the '10 Packers could get up on the '96 Packers early, I have to think they would sneak out a couple of victories on the basis of Favre's tendency to take games on his own shoulders.

Put Reggie White on the opposite side of the line from Brett Favre, and we have Brett Favre vomiting blood on the sidelines. Put Reggie White on the opposite side of the line from Aaron Rodgers, and we might end up with a concussion, but more than likely we end up with a few rushes for first downs.

On the other hand, it is likely that Reggie White would eat this offensive line alive, so I am not sure I'd actually want to make that test.

It is an interesting question. I don't think the answer is as clear cut as some might like to imagine.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:




Actually the only question is WHEN was the game played?
If it was back in 96 Favre-White wins as the 10 team was too young.
If it was in 10 then the Rodgers-CM III team wins because the other team is just a bunch of fat old men. :sarcasm:
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