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13 years ago
Green Bay Packers GM Ted Thompson keeps cool while NFC rivals lose theirs 

The Green Bay Packers watched Thursday night as some of their primary rivals in the NFC tripped all over themselves in the first round of the NFL draft while trying to keep up with the reigning Super Bowl champions.

Meanwhile, Packers General Manager Ted Thompson stood pat, waited until the final pick of the round at No. 32, and chose the best player available, offensive tackle Derek Sherrod of Mississippi State.

Both the Atlanta Falcons and New Orleans Saints gambled away high draft picks in a desperate effort to stay within striking distance of the Packers.

You can bet the Packers resounding 48-21 NFC divisional playoff victory over Atlanta three months ago was still fresh in the minds of the Falcons. Their response was to trade up to the No. 6 overall pick and grab dynamic Alabama receiver Julio Jones, who will give quarterback Matt Ryan another dangerous target besides Roddy White.

But the cost of that move was staggering. The Falcons parted with first-, second- and fourth-round picks this year and first- and fourth-rounders next season for the right to draft Jones. Talk about sticker shock. The Falcons essentially mortgaged their future for a chance to make a Super Bowl run in 2011.

In the process, they neglected their defense, which could be problematic. The Falcons got torched by quarterback Aaron Rodgers and the Packers in the playoffs and could use some reinforcements on that side of the ball, but trading away multiple picks isnt going to help them accomplish that.

The Saints followed the Falcons lead when they traded a second-round pick this season and a first-rounder next year to New England for the right to select Alabama running back Mark Ingram at No. 28. Like the Falcons, the Saints bolstered their offense but did nothing to aid their defense, which got lit up by the Seattle Seahawks in a first-round playoff defeat last season.

In contrast to the Falcons and Saints frenzied efforts, there was Thompson, one cool draft customer who has stocked the Packers roster so well that there was no need to climb the draft board or trade away precious picks for need.

We were comfortable sitting and watching, Thompson said. We felt the board was deep enough to do that.

Last year, Thompson watched as tackle Bryan Bulaga fell to the Packers at No. 23, and the same thing happened this time around with Sherrod. Just like that, the Packers have a pair of young offensive tackles that could serve as bookends for the next decade.

Any opportunity Thompson gets to keep Rodgers healthy and happy is a move in the right direction.

The best part is that in neither case did Thompson draft one of his future tackles out of desperation. Bulaga eased his way into the Packers starting lineup as a rookie when Mark Tauscher was lost for the year. As long as veteran Chad Clifton stays healthy, there is no need to rush Sherrod into starting status.

Thats a luxury the Packers have because of Thompsons steady approach to the draft. Over the years he has coveted draft picks and has refused to reach for prospects. On occasion, he has traded up to select a player he really likes.

Thats also the reason Thompsons NFC rivals are scrambling to keep pace.



Stupid NE gets yet another pick this year AND another 1st round pick NEXT YEAR! It is enough to make one sick. :pukeright:
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beast
13 years ago
Yeah honestly I don't get how the Patriots get teams to agree to deals like that. and I'm a bit jealous because they would be nice to have one once in a while.

I don't understand the Falcon making that trade but the Saints one I get but that's still a high price. Saints wanted a power running game to go with their passing game. Falcons wanted more weapons on offense but I think they could of gotten that guy later and/or two good WRs for a cheaper price.

Also the article says the Saints didn't help their defense... what do you call drafting DE Cameron Jordan then?
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Didn't the Packers trade with the Patriots to get Clay Matthews III? I think the Packers already got one of those good trades, ya think? 🙂
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beast
13 years ago

Didn't the Packers trade with the Patriots to get Clay Matthews III? I think the Packers already got one of those good trades, ya think? :)

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That was a trade up... I was talking about a trade down to get a 2nd round pick and next years 1st...

Though it's been rumored that Thompson doesn't prefer trading for or trading away future picks.

Thompson has done it a couple of times but it's usually been with low draft picks. I think he traded a 7th round pick for a future 6th with the Saints and he got the Panthers 7th round pick this year by trading a Long Snapper to them a couple of years ago.
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millertime
13 years ago
Saints have Pierre Thomas and Chris Ivory. They have a dynamic passing game. Why bargain all your chips with Ingram? They now will most likely let Reggie Bush go. Don't see the reasoning by this move or the Falcon's desperate move. Both these teams had defensive issues they are neglecting. Don't get it.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Didn't the Packers trade with the Patriots to get Clay Matthews III? I think the Packers already got one of those good trades, ya think? :)

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That was a trade up... I was talking about a trade down to get a 2nd round pick and next years 1st...

Though it's been rumored that Thompson doesn't prefer trading for or trading away future picks.

Thompson has done it a couple of times but it's usually been with low draft picks. I think he traded a 7th round pick for a future 6th with the Saints and he got the Panthers 7th round pick this year by trading a Long Snapper to them a couple of years ago.

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I know what you were saying and I'm saying I think the Packers got the better end of a good trade with the Patriots already. More picks doesn't necessarily mean better. That's what I'm getting at.

Perhaps you'd rather the picks instead of Clay, that's fine, I choose Clay.
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Since69
13 years ago
Besides, there's no guarantee there will even BE a draft next year. How will Belicheat's dealing look if that happens?
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Greg C.
13 years ago
Good article. I couldn't believe what the Falcons paid to get Jones. The Saints trade was not as bad, but it still has an air of desperation about it. They are mainly a passing team, and it's not like they don't have any good running backs.
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13 years ago

Yeah honestly I don't get how the Patriots get teams to agree to deals like that. and I'm a bit jealous because they would be nice to have one once in a while.

I don't understand the Falcon making that trade but the Saints one I get but that's still a high price. Saints wanted a power running game to go with their passing game. Falcons wanted more weapons on offense but I think they could of gotten that guy later and/or two good WRs for a cheaper price.

Also the article says the Saints didn't help their defense... what do you call drafting DE Cameron Jordan then?

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I saw that too. I guess that is an oops.
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beast
13 years ago

Perhaps you'd rather the picks instead of Clay, that's fine, I choose Clay.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I never said anything like that...

Just said I think it would be nice to pick up extra top picks sometime...
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