Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
All blanket statements are not true, including this one.

I said I would turn in a drug dealer, not a user. Unless the use came to that point where rock bottom had to hit them in the face. Stealing for drugs, unable to work, alienating family etc. Basically, an addict. I would do everything I could to get a user to quit before they turned into an addict.

But if they were dealing, I would turn them in. I don't care if it were my little sister.

Most of my experience has shown that addicts don't just up an quit. Granted, most of that experience is with people who got treatment. None of the ones I would call addicts just quit.

Only a very few of the ones I would call alcoholics just quit either. I know lots of heavy drinkers in college that just quit or cut down to social drinking. There is a difference.

Too bring it back to the topic of this thread, an addict is someone who can't quit, like Jolly. He had everything to lose by using, and just couldn't say no. That is the kind of guy who should have gotten treatment. The threat of 20 years was not enough to get him to figure that out. He is one of those guys that needs to hit bottom, then have someone slam his face into it repeatedly. Too bad he didn't have someone who cared enough about him
to do that before it cost him his career. Sympathy for addicts just enables them to stay addicted.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
doddpower
13 years ago
I was definitely talking about dealers in my post. Several of them actually. I suppose everyone's experience is different though.

I would never turn someone in to a legal system that is broken and dysfunctional. If I had any faith that the system actually works, then perhaps, but I don't believe it does (and I'm certainly not alone).
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bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
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bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
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bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
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