macbob
  • macbob
  • Veteran Member Topic Starter
13 years ago
Ok, I can't fathom how the NFLPA sees this as doing anything to persuade the owners to give in to the players. All I can see this doing is antagonizing the owners.

I'm losing optimisim after an article like this. Things are REALLY starting to get childish.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6216135 

An offseason turned upside down will continue to get odder.

The NFL Players Association is putting into place a plan that would prevent each top college prospect from attending next month's draft in New York, according to multiple league sources. The NFLPA already has contacted 17 top prospects who ordinarily would have received an invitation to attend the draft and informed them not to go.

Later Monday, a source said the edict is a recommendation, not an explicit order not to attend the draft. The source said the union plans to give the prospects the "same experience down the street."

If the draftees do not attend, when NFL commissioner Roger Goodell announces the name of the first player selected, the player will not walk onto the stage at Radio City Music Hall as has been the custom. And the player will not be there to do interviews with ESPN or NFL Network. The draft will go on, but not in the manner in which it has been conducted before.

"As of right now, this is 100 percent happening," one source familiar with the NFL Players Association's thinking said earlier Monday. "This is going down."

The NFLPA even has gone so far as to consider placing the players on another competing network to do post-pick interviews, though no final decisions have been made. Another source said that, in this day and age, it's possible that the top prospects also could appear on a social media network platform, only.

"We plan to invite the 15-20 top prospects and their families to New York as we normally do for this once-in-a-lifetime experience. And, as always, it is the decision of the players and their families as to whether they attend," league spokesman Greg Aiello said in response to the report.

While the NFL has always paid the expenses for the invited players and their immediate family to attend the draft, the league said it would not pay players a fee in an attempt to have them present this year.

Last Friday, the union decertified, meaning it declared itself out of the business of representing players. In exchange for giving up their rights under labor law, the players are able to take their chances in court under antitrust law.

Although it no longer represents players, the NFLPA still exists "as a professional trade association with the mission of supporting the interests and rights of current and former professional football players," it said after decertifying.

ESPN wrote:



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/14/nflpa-tells-incoming-players-to-boycott-draft/related 

Report: NFLPA* tells incoming players to boycott draft
NBCSports | Mike Florio

The non-asterisked NFLPA, back when it was a labor union, advised incoming rookies to attend last months Scouting Combine.

The NFLPA*, now a trade association, reportedly wants those incoming rookie to eschew any invitation to attend next months draft.

Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that [t]he NFLPA

  • already has contacted 17 top prospects that ordinarily would have received an invitation to attend the draft and informed them not to go.

  • The NFLPA* has even considered making the players available on another network for post-pick interviews.

    Frankly, were not sure how the NFLPA* can tell the incoming rookies to do anything. The NFLPA* no longer has any control over the players. Even when the NFLPA* was the NFLPA, they couldnt tell players who have yet to be drafted to do anything.

    Bottom line? This could get interesting.

    NBCSports ProFootballTalk wrote:

    Zero2Cool
    13 years ago
    I never thought I'd say this. I'm losing my ambition to watch football anymore. I know it's not cut and dry. I just think it's pathetic they publicly blame one another and do things like this. Its worse than two kids on the playground. He started it! No he took my ball! It wasn't his anyway I had it first!

    Its all making me lose interest in football quickly.
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    doddpower
    13 years ago

    I never thought I'd say this. I'm losing my ambition to watch football anymore. I know it's not cut and dry. I just think it's pathetic they publicly blame one another and do things like this. Its worse than two kids on the playground. He started it! No he took my ball! It wasn't his anyway I had it first!

    Its all making me lose interest in football quickly.

    "Zero2Cool" wrote:




    I've been hearing this from a few different people lately. While I can understand where they are coming from, I truly believe that after a year or so of football in the future, most avid fans will be right back in the swing of things. It's just incredibly easy to get discouraged right now, for sure.
    Greg C.
    13 years ago
    So far I've mostly sided with the players over the owners, but this seems like a bad move to me. I just don't see why this is any of the union's business. Even in a normal year, the draftees are not members of the union until they sign their contracts.
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    Zero2Cool
    13 years ago

    I've been hearing this from a few different people lately. While I can understand where they are coming from, I truly believe that after a year or so of football in the future, most avid fans will be right back in the swing of things. It's just incredibly easy to get discouraged right now, for sure.

    "doddpower" wrote:



    I think I'm discouraged selfishly.

    The things I do (that no one asked me to) ... pay for the site, manage it, pay for nfl sunday ticket so i can watch the Packers, spend money on Packers merchandise, spend 3+ hrs watching Packers and then other games, record the games, spend hours editing them ... etc ... guess I kind of feel if I can work 50hrs or more a week, raise my daughter by myself ... that folks making millions and billions should HAVE been able to come to some kind of an agreement prior to the dead line.


    Edit, I guess what I'm saying is we've shown our devotion to the game, where's their devotion to getting this done? Did they wait til the last minute? To my knowledge, they knew the CBA was going to expire when it did, so they had since '07 to come up with a new one and here we're reading that the former NFLPA is wanting young kids who've dreamed of being drafted to BOYCOTT the draft?

    Professional athletes salaries are absurdly high already ... enough is enough. Greed destroys.
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    djcubez
    13 years ago

    So far I've mostly sided with the players over the owners, but this seems like a bad move to me.

    "Greg C." wrote:



    I agree. I was trying not to pick sides but the players always seemed more reasonable and ready to negotiate.

    This is a bold move by Smith.
    macbob
    • macbob
    • Veteran Member Topic Starter
    13 years ago

    I never thought I'd say this. I'm losing my ambition to watch football anymore. I know it's not cut and dry. I just think it's pathetic they publicly blame one another and do things like this. Its worse than two kids on the playground. He started it! No he took my ball! It wasn't his anyway I had it first!

    Its all making me lose interest in football quickly.

    "doddpower" wrote:




    I've been hearing this from a few different people lately. While I can understand where they are coming from, I truly believe that after a year or so of football in the future, most avid fans will be right back in the swing of things. It's just incredibly easy to get discouraged right now, for sure.

    "Zero2Cool" wrote:



    I used to watch baseball all the time, was active in fantasy baseball leagues, attended 4-5 games a year, etc. Then along came the 1994 strike, toward the end of the season and wiping out the World Series. I told myself at the time that if that was all the appreciation the owners and players had for the fans that supported the game, then I was done watching Major League Baseball until they did something showing they actually appreciated the fans.

    Not that I hold a grudge or anything, but I haven't watched MLB since. I'll watch the college world series or minor league ball, but I don't watch the Majors.

    My wife and I have a disagreement over this. I say I'm determined, she says I'm stubborn...
    Greg C.
    13 years ago
    I also quit watching baseball after the 1994 strike, and I was a big fan of it before then. The steroid scandals made me even more determined not to watch. In the past few years, I have finally begun watching a few innings here and there, mostly in the playoffs, but as a fan, I'm a non-factor. I have to admit that major league baseball has done just fine without me, though.
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    TheKanataThrilla
    13 years ago

    I also quit watching baseball after the 1994 strike, and I was a big fan of it before then. The steroid scandals made me even more determined not to watch. In the past few years, I have finally begun watching a few innings here and there, mostly in the playoffs, but as a fan, I'm a non-factor. I have to admit that major league baseball has done just fine without me, though.

    "Greg C." wrote:



    We're in the same boat. Adding to my frustration was that I was a Montreal Expos fan who were predicted to win it all that year. My team goes from their one chance at winning it all to having the economics of the game kill their franchise. I was at their last game and it was really sad and people were really angry at MLB.

    It is hard to get excited to watch baseball knowing there are only a few teams with a real chance of competiting. Sure we'll have some flukely seasons where a Tampa Bay makes it to the end, but why anyone would be a KC fan or a Washington fan is beyond me. I still love the skill of the game and will catch some of the playoffs, but it is too much about business and less about fun for me now to invest in it now that my team is gone and the Blue Jays in the AL East has no shot in hell at ever making it to the playoffs.
    wpr
    • wpr
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    13 years ago
    It is funny how the Players Association is not a union but can still tell men who are not even members what they can and can not do. Seems like they want to have it all their own way no matter what.

    I think it is pretty poor on their part to coerce the players from having their time in the limelight.
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