Stevetarded
14 years ago

Draft an inside LB to move outside when the only option if it doesn't work is to move him back inside where you end up with a first round pick that won't play and your trying to get rid of a good player there already because there is no room.

Does anyone think this might be a HUGE risk with a first round pick?

"warhawk" wrote:



Well there aren't that many actual 3-4 OLB in any draft. The other option is taking a DE and making him an OLB and what's your option if he doesn't work out?
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warhawk
14 years ago
Personally I think this draft could end up very wild if the players/owners don't get together before then and free up the FA's that are out there.

Add to that the possibility that the new rookie pay scale may hold up and a guy like Thompson could move up and get a player for three times less than it would have cost last year.

Lot's of moving parts that could make for a VERY interesting draft. We may see moves never made before and probably won't see again.
"The train is leaving the station."
DakotaT
14 years ago

Personally I think this draft could end up very wild if the players/owners don't get together before then and free up the FA's that are out there.

Add to that the possibility that the new rookie pay scale may hold up and a guy like Thompson could move up and get a player for three times less than it would have cost last year.

Lot's of moving parts that could make for a VERY interesting draft. We may see moves never made before and probably won't see again.

"warhawk" wrote:



Then let's get this guy:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBQQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYu7wh1VNnEo&ei=ccKDTY3REYK6sAOD2eCFAg&usg=AFQjCNErrfiRSMN_SnvDwefsBtXmJsVysw
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warhawk
14 years ago

Draft an inside LB to move outside when the only option if it doesn't work is to move him back inside where you end up with a first round pick that won't play and your trying to get rid of a good player there already because there is no room.

Does anyone think this might be a HUGE risk with a first round pick?

"Stevetarded" wrote:



Well there aren't that many actual 3-4 OLB in any draft. The other option is taking a DE and making him an OLB and what's your option if he doesn't work out?

"warhawk" wrote:



If I were a GM I wouldn't make the call in the first round unless I felt as strong as Ted did with CM3. To your point these players have to be converted from what they did in college over to what it takes to play our specific 3-4 defense.

To take up my first round pick I have to be completely SOLD the guy will be a player. The risk is less if you wait and try to get a guy later than to end up with a wasted 1st round pick.

Thompson had serious NADS to move back up and grab Mathews. Now it worked out better than anybody could possibly hope for but what if it didn't? It's not hard to see what kind of hit the team would have taken if he had not worked out.

The upside and the downside margin is SO wide there when your talking first round I consider the risk extremely high. I am not sure this is the year or this pick is the place.
"The train is leaving the station."
warhawk
14 years ago

Personally I think this draft could end up very wild if the players/owners don't get together before then and free up the FA's that are out there.

Add to that the possibility that the new rookie pay scale may hold up and a guy like Thompson could move up and get a player for three times less than it would have cost last year.

Lot's of moving parts that could make for a VERY interesting draft. We may see moves never made before and probably won't see again.

"DakotaT" wrote:



Then let's get this guy:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBQQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYu7wh1VNnEo&ei=ccKDTY3REYK6sAOD2eCFAg&usg=AFQjCNErrfiRSMN_SnvDwefsBtXmJsVysw

"warhawk" wrote:



Teams would CANCEL games scheduled against us if we got this guy.
"The train is leaving the station."
Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago

has there been any reports of what pro days our staff has been to?

"gbguy20" wrote:



The only two I heard of were UW and AZ to look at Brooks Reed. But I am sure they have been a lot more places than just those two.
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DakotaT
14 years ago


Then let's get this guy:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBQQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYu7wh1VNnEo&ei=ccKDTY3REYK6sAOD2eCFAg&usg=AFQjCNErrfiRSMN_SnvDwefsBtXmJsVysw

"warhawk" wrote:



Teams would CANCEL games scheduled against us if we got this guy.

"DakotaT" wrote:



You say that like it's a bad thing. It's awesome when people chalk up a loss on the schedule before playing you. We had that in 96 & 97, and it feels like that again. I think our current quarterback is much more level headed and won't let that success overwhelm him.
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millertime
14 years ago

Personally I think this draft could end up very wild if the players/owners don't get together before then and free up the FA's that are out there.

Add to that the possibility that the new rookie pay scale may hold up and a guy like Thompson could move up and get a player for three times less than it would have cost last year.

Lot's of moving parts that could make for a VERY interesting draft. We may see moves never made before and probably won't see again.

"warhawk" wrote:



I totally agree. The CBA is totally reshaping the draft. Teams won't be able to sign FAs so will look to fill more needs with the draft. Additionally, teams can't trade for players so guys like Matt Flynn and Kevin Kolb are likely to stay put.

The largest implication would be the implications of a rookie pay scale. Teams often shy away from taking the "best" player if he's not at a certain position. Look at Carolina, everyone would think they were crazy if they picked Patrick Peterson first and gave him Sam Bradford money. But a 5 years deal at around $30 million is very good money for a starting corner.
Teams have a LOT less to gain by trading out of those top spots if there is a rookie pay scale.

Additionally, there seems to be a clause to make first round picks 5 years contracts and second round picks 4 year contracts. This would give Ted incredible bargaining power to a QB hungry team. If you were a team like Cinci or Washington, would you rather pay your potential starting QB like a rookie for 4 years or 5? Obviously, a 5 year deal (especially if it is a developmental prospect like Locker or Kaepernick.) You'd trade up in a heartbeat to make sure you got your guy for an extra year on a rookie salary.
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