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13 years ago

Expect teams to study, copy Packers' plan of attack vs. Steelers 


There are those who copycat every SB champ.


Every Super Bowl has an impact on the following season. The Patriots' dramatic win over the Rams put a serious dent in the "greatest show on turf." Teams studied Bill Belichick's defensive strategy that utilized a ton of man-under-two-deep coverages, daring Kurt Warner to run with the ball. St. Louis' scoring machine had been slowed down, and it left a lasting impact on that offense going forward.

The Steve Spagnuolo-designed Giants' defense that knocked off the undefeated Patriots a few years later also changed the game. Teams had struggled to generate a pass rush on Tom Brady prior to that game and many teams applied the lessons from that contest to modify their defensive approach against New England. Since then, the Patriots have turned themselves into a horizontal passing attack and so the chess match continues.

The Saints had a pressure defense that was capable of disrupting Peyton Manning just enough to beat the favored Colts last year. Every defensive coordinator in the NFL studied that game tape with an eye on blitzing Manning more often.

This year's Super Bowl could be the most revealing of all, because the two defensive coordinators knew each other so well. They had to have shared some secrets about their scheme with their offensive coordinators down the hall. The end result just might be a blueprint for attacking the famous zone blitz scheme that wreaks havoc on so many teams.

I recently spoke with an NFL offensive coordinator and we discussed how the Packers' offensive plan against the Steelers might have taught all of us about how to attack that defense. Granted, having a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers makes everything look easier than it really is, but the concepts Green Bay employed will no doubt become a major part of playing the Steelers in the future. Phil Simms, who broke down the coaches' tape, told me, "the Packers really didn't do a lot of different things in the game. They simply spread their offense out and ran about three different pass plays and it worked."

As a former NFL head coach explained, "the Spread offense is here to stay in the NFL, especially after what the Packers got done in the Super Bowl. And quarterbacks like Cam Newton and Blaine Gabbert are headed to the NFL next year with 'spread' offense experience which will only perpetuate the spread in pro football."

The spread offense has a few formational variations and the Packers used them all. They employed a "3 by 2" empty principle with Rodgers in the shotgun, three receivers to one side of the field and two receivers to the other side. They used a '4 by 1' principle with four receivers to one side and a single receiver opposite. They used a single back in the backfield occasionally and they started the game out in shotgun with a running back and a tight end in the backfield for protection reasons. There were reasons for all those variations, but the philosophy was all the same and that was to isolate Steeler defenders.

Keep in mind, these teams played in 2009 with the same quarterbacks and defensive coordinators and that game had 73 points scored, 100 pass plays called and over 1,000 yards of offense. The Super Bowl saw 87 pass plays called and 56 points scored. Most of the offensive damage, especially by the Packers, was from the shotgun. Green Bay ran 29 plays from the shotgun formation, and run just once, while getting sacked once. The Steelers just couldn't get enough pressure on Rodgers.

Pittsburgh doesn't have great cornerbacks and relies on its pressure scheme to disrupt the QB before he can get after the defensive backs. Green Bay isolated all of the defensive backs and in many situations loosened up the outside linebackers just enough that the passes were away before James Harrison or LaMarr Woodley could get home. William Gay, Bryant McFadden and even Troy Polamalu were all on islands against capable receivers like Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, James Jones and Donald Driver.

Rodgers didn't really even have to use his feet to scramble and run for first downs like he had done in the previous playoff games. I agree with Trent Dilfer, who told me, "If the Packer receivers just held on to the slant routes Aaron stuck in there, he would have easily thrown for over 400 yards."

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The Packers set a record for the fewest rushing attempts by a team to win a Super Bowl and they might have locked in on the only way to move the ball against the mighty Steeler defense. Phil Simms thought the simplicity of the spread pass attack made it easy for Rodgers to get the ball out of his hand. I was impressed with the fact Rodgers targeted 10 different receivers. The spread made it tough for the Steelers to get after Rodgers and as Brad Childress, the former Vikings head coach said to me, "there was a time when teams thought of using spread empty sets four or five times a game, but that number is certainly on the rise."

Dick LeBeau knew going into this game that Aaron Rodgers had the best passer rating (89) in the regular season against pressure calls. He also knew, however, that if he sat back and played coverage, he would see the guy with the 103 rating, so he went with his plan.

The problem was that when he looked at the NFC Championship Game against the Bears, he saw a Packer offense that used a lot of two-back sets with a very conservative pass attack.

It wasn't until the 19th pass play in Chicago that the Packers went to the spread and hit Jordy Nelson down the seam. That turned out to be a quick glimpse at what Mike McCarthy had in mind for the Steelers from the beginning of the game. Now you have to wonder how many teams are going to change their approach to playing the Steelers in 2011.


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bozz_2006
13 years ago
Great article. Fine reporting! I think many football fans almost completely overlook the strategic "scheme vs scheme" aspect of the game. Coaches do a whole lot more than tell the players to keep their pad level down.
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Greg C.
13 years ago
Agreed. This is one of the better articles I've read lately. The Packers' depth at WR sure came in handy. When your fourth-best receiver hangs 140 yards on the best defense in the NFL in the Super Bowl, that tells you something.
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13 years ago
What I find interesting is the article talks about how to beat Pitt and their great defense as if it was an upset or some kind of quirky scheme that one. The thing they missed on is first you need a stable of quality receivers to do what GB did.
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mi_keys
13 years ago

What I find interesting is the article talks about how to beat Pitt and their great defense as if it was an upset or some kind of quirky scheme that one. The thing they missed on is first you need a stable of quality receivers to do what GB did.

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And more importantly an elite quarterback. The Saints and Patriots also had success this year against the Steelers because of how stacked their offenses are. The Saints are somewhat like us with an elite quarterback and deep receiver rotation that makes them a nightmare to matchup against everyone. The Patriots do it a little differently with a lot of great check down targets and really strong offensive line play. The point is, everyone knew the Steelers' biggest weakness on defense was their cornerbacks. The problem is neutralizing the rest of their defense long enough, and often enough to take advantage of that defense.

Hell, the Cardinals in Super Bowl 43 saw Warner go for 377 yards and 3 TDs. If it weren't for his boneheaded goal line interception that went 100 yards the other way the Cardinals win in a blowout (well by Super Bowl standards). They probably also knew the Steelers defense well as Wisenhunt had been an offensive coach their for several years. Their secret to success was having Warner, Boldin, and Fitzgerald.

The league has known this for awhile. Unfortunately, for most of the league knowing this means absolutely nothing because they just don't have the talent to execute. Otherwise the Steelers wouldn't have had the number one scoring defense.
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tonyagnese
13 years ago
Not all teams can pull this off as you already know. There is a counter to every approach. Rodgers had to be accurate and disciplined in order to execute many of the plays he made. He is a guy who likes to hold onto the ball like Ben, and he had to let go of that tendency in order to help GB win. On the 2011 schedule, both the Pats and the Colts can use this strategy, and they are virtually locks to make the playoffs annually. The other teams on the schedule could try it on 3rd downs or for stretches of a game.

It's a copy cat league. The Raiders and NE did the same thing many years ago. Packers are a great team and played a fantastic game. It's all true.

Rogers threw some sick passes in the SB....laser sharp. Trying it, and having it work are two different things. This isn't a suddenly new pattern, but it's also not one that means the entire NFL is suddenly different...or that all teams can accomplish this.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
It is easy, all you have to do is have starting quality WRs 4 deep and a QB as accurate and disciplined as Rodgers.

Piece of cake.
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13 years ago
When it comes to strategy:

I figured the Falcons would have tried Tony Gonzales on the linebackers or safeties.

Short passing can work on the Packers.

The one effective thing against the Packers is running wide and having crackback blocks on the OLB's or counting on Matthews speed taking him out of the play.

OF course a good route and a good throw can work anytime. Good thing the Packers don't have to play against Aaron Rodgers.
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Greg C.
13 years ago

When it comes to strategy:

I figured the Falcons would have tried Tony Gonzales on the linebackers or safeties.

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I think Dom mostly put Woodson on Gonzalez and completely shut him down. When he finally caught a pass in the third quarter, he got creamed (by Bishop, I think) and left the game with an injury. I think that by the end of the season Dom had gained so much confidence in Shields that he was able to address our Achilles' heel--short passes to the tight end--by having Woodson dog the tight end on most plays.
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13 years ago
Here is another question that was not mentioned in the article.
After watching both SB teams using the 3-4 defense, how many other teams will switch over to it this year or next year?
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