sanguine
14 years ago

Starks has had two good games in three opportunities. As a rookie. Jackson has had two or three good games in 17 opportunities, or maybe something like 12 or 13 if you consider that the Packers were very pass-oriented at times this season. And this is Jackson's fourth season. Not a lot of upside there.

Starks is already a better runner than Jackson, and because he is so young, he has way more potential and is therefore way more valuable than Jackson. I don't think there will be much of a bidding war for Jackson during free agency. However, it sounds like he may not be comfortable with having been passed up twice now by players who started their careers at a much lower point than he did, so maybe it will be best for him to go elsewhere. I'd love to keep him around as our third down back, with Grant and Starks as the top two RBs.

"dfosterf" wrote:



+1

Jackson.

He jitterbugs too much, imo. His production (or lack of it, dependent upon how you want to look at it) is in the context of defenses that are scheming against the pass, not the run. Not only does he not legitimize our running game to an acceptable degree (On OUR team, with OUR line--another discussion) whatever production he HAS had is somewhat suspect in that defensive coordinators are not exactly game-planning to stop him. We are way too "one dimensional" with him in there when viewed from the opponent's perspective. They (defenses) SHOULD be "paying" for not scheming against our run game. Sadly, with him in there, they do not have to pay far too often.

I understand he has value, the question is -for me- is it worth the cost in non productive runs way too often in critical situations, coupled with unfavorable downs and distances as a result of "giving him the rock" to try and keep defenses "honest".

He has had 4 years to scare a defense. Starks has had 3 games. Who do you think scares a defense more right now?

I don't know what will happen with Starks, Grant and Jackson, but I do know my answer right now with the information in front of me.

Grant would scare them, imo. Starks does scare them, imo . Jackson does not, imo.

The Starks factor could change this Saturday, but at least it's there right now, and that in and of itself is an improvement over where we were a week ago.

Eagles had to pay. Atlanta is paying too, even before the game begins.

I feel bad for Jackson, because I'm sure he heard those comments of praise from his teammates regarding Starks, which were probably viewed by Brandon as a vote of no confidence in him...

This is the NFL, and he did not step up...sorry, but that's the way it goes.

"Greg C." wrote:



+1!

I think B-Jax is a solid pass blocker, but aside of that he doesn't put up the numbers needed. He has had a lot of time to prepare for backing up Grant. But when the time is there, he doesn't show up, which causes Rodgers to try and make more plays in the passing game resulting in some interceptions that he should have never thrown.

Kuhn is a solid 3rd down back too, he can pound it in there and he can pass block. Starks is doing really good and i'm excited about him backing up Grant. Starks hasn't shown that he can already get the starting role, and Grant hasn't had the time to compete with him but they should do really good splitting carries.

With Grant being more of a power runner, and Starks a tackle-breaker i would say let B-Jax go, i'm sorry for him but this is the NFL, and if you get a chance you have to put up some numbers not an average of 2yards! And look at Starks using every possible opportunity he has. Every time he gets tripped up or tackled i see him jumping up slapping him on the helmet saying "ah man, i could get so much more yards out of that carry", give the rookie some time and he will develop in a decent back.

So keep Grant, Starks, Kuhn on RB, release B-jax and let the beast(johnson) play FB.
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millertime
14 years ago
He's a scat back, which is great. I'd be open to keeping him, but I'd rather have guy who could return kicks and contribute on passing downs (like a Darren Sproles or Leon Washington-type).
zombieslayer
14 years ago

It does kind of make you feel bad for Jackson. Unfortunately, this is a business. If he is not able to give us what we want, he will probably be moving on. I do think that he is certainly capable as a third down back, but we'll just have to see what happens next year. Probably, we will have the proverbial "two-headed monster" on our team, much like many other NFL teams have. I haven't noticed much yet, but how does Starks perform when pass-blocking?

"peteralan71" wrote:



Business or no business, I do feel bad for Jackson. He's a dang good blocker and I can't say enough about blocking. I wish our OL blocked as well (per their position) as Jackson does.

I haven't seen Starks blocking much. It's too little info to judge from.
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brnt247
14 years ago
While I'm sure Starks can be an adequate pass-blocker, I foresee him taking over the majority of the carries as opposed to Grant. Grant is certainly not the type of back you want on third and seven out of the backfield as a check down. He has decent hands, but his agility is not quite the same as Jackson's.

I think this team gets worse if Jackson is let go and no other back is brought in to fill that role. Keeping Jackson, if he agrees to take the role of third down back, is probably the right decision to make.
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14 years ago
If we don't resign Jackson, we'll draft or pick up another RB. We should have 3. Or 4.
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