DakotaT
13 years ago
This thread has nothing to do with McCarthey being a pussy and everything to do with McCarthey playing not to lose. It pisses me off that we dominated 3 quarters of football and weren't whooping it up on the sidelines for the fourth quarter instead of getting bailed out by Tramon in the end.

Getting off the accelerator makes McCarthey's game plan questionable to some of us, quit being so sensitive and let us critique should we so choose. That is what a forum like this is for.
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warhawk
13 years ago
Sure you can but to call him a pussy is a little outlandish. There are a lot of teams that would have caved with all these guys out and players off the street coming in.

The coach has to establish a position that the players buy into or they are going to look at the lineup and wonder how they hell they have a chance.

These guys KNOW they miss Finley and Grant and Barnett and Burnett and all these guys but they have a leader that has kept them together and kept them believing they are still good enough and somehow keeps them in every game.

McCarthy has had to plug young and inexperienced players in there ever since he has gotten here from the first year eleven player draft to Rodgers stepping in to switching to the 3-4 and new players to do that right.

This year it's been Quarless and Bulaga, Starks, Zombo, Shields, Weldon, and unknowns on the DL at times, hell, even Flynn. Yet the team goes into every game thinking they can win and they are PREPARED well enough to win every game.

You can think he's a pussy but you can bet there is not a guy on that 45 that will go along with you and that's all that counts.
"The train is leaving the station."
ILikeThePackers39
13 years ago

Did we just win a playoff game on the road?

I think Mike McCarthy got a little tentative due to the massive drop by Jones and went conservative before the half.

Jennings and Jones better figure out how to make some of those catches that sustain drives..

Wanna complain.. there is two that dropped balls that hurt us today.

Yet our defense, balanced game carried us through to a close win. Thumbs up Baby.

"Pack93z" wrote:




Agreed completely. That drop flat-out killed the momentum of that drive - the whole damn team deflated. Best thing to do was to let it go and get prepared for the second half.

As to the complaints, I'm with you - they just went in and handled the Eagles. Never trailed. More points would be nice, but it's not like there wasn't a defense lining up on the other side.

Thumbs way up over here.
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ILikeThePackers39
13 years ago

Was I seeing things or did we take our shot to Jones only to see him drop it?

"go.pack.go." wrote:



That's what I saw, too. Greg also dropped a good shot. Why can't McCarthy catch it for them?!
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warhawk
13 years ago

This thread has nothing to do with McCarthey being a pussy and everything to do with McCarthey playing not to lose. It pisses me off that we dominated 3 quarters of football and weren't whooping it up on the sidelines for the fourth quarter instead of getting bailed out by Tramon in the end.

Getting off the accelerator makes McCarthey's game plan questionable to some of us, quit being so sensitive and let us critique should we so choose. That is what a forum like this is for.

"DakotaT" wrote:



If this is so then I think the Headline for the thread should read a little differently, don't you?
"The train is leaving the station."
nerdmann
13 years ago

Sure you can but to call him a pussy is a little outlandish. There are a lot of teams that would have caved with all these guys out and players off the street coming in.

The coach has to establish a position that the players buy into or they are going to look at the lineup and wonder how they hell they have a chance.

These guys KNOW they miss Finley and Grant and Barnett and Burnett and all these guys but they have a leader that has kept them together and kept them believing they are still good enough and somehow keeps them in every game.

McCarthy has had to plug young and inexperienced players in there ever since he has gotten here from the first year eleven player draft to Rodgers stepping in to switching to the 3-4 and new players to do that right.

This year it's been Quarless and Bulaga, Starks, Zombo, Shields, Weldon, and unknowns on the DL at times, hell, even Flynn. Yet the team goes into every game thinking they can win and they are PREPARED well enough to win every game.

You can think he's a pussy but you can bet there is not a guy on that 45 that will go along with you and that's all that counts.

"warhawk" wrote:





Would you prefer the term "gutless?"
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Would you prefer the term "gutless?"

"nerdmann" wrote:



Being serious, I think being Head Coach and Offensive Player Caller is too much. Maybe he has some HC responsibilities delegated, I don't know. I think when it comes down to crunch time, he gets overwhelmed, perhaps flustered?
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4PackGirl
13 years ago

It's unbelievable to me that people rip McCarthy even when we win when he's the one that put a game winning game plan together in the first place.

"IronMan" wrote:


Lombardi ripped his team after wins all the time.

"4PackGirl" wrote:



he's the coach.
we're not.

"IronMan" wrote:


So fans can never question the team or coach after a win. Got it.

"warhawk" wrote:



way to miss the point.
you said lombardi ripped his team after wins all the time.
you were speaking of a former coach.
i addressed that with speaking of our current coach.
then i went on to say that i got no problem with you guys discussing each game in great detail but to call someone a pussy is not respectful & brings very little credibility to oneself by saying something like that.
and sure i was laughing at the hindsight stuff cuz i think it's funny.
El3ment12
13 years ago
We Beat Philly on the road for the first time in the playoffs correct? McCarthy did a fine job.
warhawk
13 years ago

Would you prefer the term "gutless?"

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Being serious, I think being Head Coach and Offensive Player Caller is too much. Maybe he has some HC responsibilities delegated, I don't know. I think when it comes down to crunch time, he gets overwhelmed, perhaps flustered?

"nerdmann" wrote:



Well, the Packers came out looking to extend in the second half which was more important since Jones blew it and what happened? Rodgers fumbled leading to the only Eagles TD to that point.

What happend next? a beautiful gut busting 80 yard drive to answer and shut up the Philly crowd. I didn't see anybody flustered there when the Eagles had just got it to 14-10.

Then what. We got the ball on the two. You want heroics there?

After that? This is about the only call on third down to Kuhn you can say anything at all but I am going to add I have seen Kuhn bully his way for two yards and move the chains many times. It didn't work so go ahead and bust McCarthy.

The last drive. A) We took the clock down,B) got the ball further upfield, and, C) took all the timeouts from Philly.

Now, with all the polls that goes on around here which of the above drives had the most negative impact on the team in the second half.

The fumble on the 24 that led to a Philly TD at a time when we were TRYING TO EXTEND the lead. Putting the "foot to the medal" and "nail in the coffin" is fine and there are times when you want to see that last score to put a team away but there can be consequences.

Had we not fumbled that ball and gave up a score there I think McCarthy plays this a little differently. He answered the call at the most critical time in the game when there was plenty of time left and it was 14-10. Eleven plays, 80 yards, a 21-10 lead.

No big mistakes from there and you go home with a win with that D. Exactly what they did.
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