longtimefan
14 years ago

I hope Dexter's lengthy post wasn't directed at me. I'm no Lynch-supporter, I merely stated that you can't take out long runs from anyone's YPC, then compare them to someone else while counting their long runs.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I agree, but my point was this..

There was a statement that Lynch ran hard ALL day to set up that run

3.5 was his avg B4 the run, so how is that ran hard all day
Packers_Finland
14 years ago

I hope Dexter's lengthy post wasn't directed at me. I'm no Lynch-supporter, I merely stated that you can't take out long runs from anyone's YPC, then compare them to someone else while counting their long runs.

"longtimefan" wrote:



I agree, but my point was this..

There was a statement that Lynch ran hard ALL day to set up that run

3.5 was his avg B4 the run, so how is that ran hard all day

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



3.5 is a good average for a running back if you take away his longest run.

Both Ravens running backs had good games, but take away their longest runs and they average under 3 yards a carry both.

I'm not saying he had an excellent game, not nearly as good as Starks had. But 3,5 yards without your longest run is a solid game.
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14 years ago
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
3.5 is not a good average for a running back, period. You want 4.0 or higher for a running back.

Elite running backs have 5.0 or higher throughout the duration of their career.
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Rockmolder
14 years ago

3.5 is not a good average for a running back, period. You want 4.0 or higher for a running back.

Elite running backs have 5.0 or higher throughout the duration of their career.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



You have some high standards. Lol. Only 17 RBs in the history of the NFL averaged more than 5.0 yards. A lot of them played in the 40s-60s.

But, of course, coming from you, this is a bit of slobbering on Sanders' balls. Lol. :geek:
Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago

I hope Dexter's lengthy post wasn't directed at me. I'm no Lynch-supporter, I merely stated that you can't take out long runs from anyone's YPC, then compare them to someone else while counting their long runs.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



I agree, but my point was this..

There was a statement that Lynch ran hard ALL day to set up that run

3.5 was his avg B4 the run, so how is that ran hard all day

"longtimefan" wrote:



3.5 is a good average for a running back if you take away his longest run.

Both Ravens running backs had good games, but take away their longest runs and they average under 3 yards a carry both.

I'm not saying he had an excellent game, not nearly as good as Starks had. But 3,5 yards without your longest run is a solid game.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



Take away Starks biggest run for the game against the eagles and he is still about 4.5 ypc.

A 3.5 per is not a good average. It is minimally adaquate. Up until that run, he was not doing very good for the entire year. That was my original comment. That one run doesn't change that fact. It isn't taking out the longest run for every game. It is just saying that up until one last run, Lynch pretty much sucked the whole year.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

3.5 is not a good average for a running back, period. You want 4.0 or higher for a running back.

Elite running backs have 5.0 or higher throughout the duration of their career.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



You have some high standards. Lol. Only 17 RBs in the history of the NFL averaged more than 5.0 yards. A lot of them played in the 40s-60s.

But, of course, coming from you, this is a bit of slobbering on Sanders' balls. Lol. :geek:

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



haha, was wondering if anyone would catch that. :)


I do feel the pecking order goes as follows, average, good, great, elite. I don't think there were that many elite running backs. I do think there were a lot of good and great running backs.

So to be elite, yes, I have high standards because I feel elite is just that, a high standard.
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Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago

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"dhpackr" wrote:


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Rockmolder
14 years ago

3.5 is not a good average for a running back, period. You want 4.0 or higher for a running back.

Elite running backs have 5.0 or higher throughout the duration of their career.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



You have some high standards. Lol. Only 17 RBs in the history of the NFL averaged more than 5.0 yards. A lot of them played in the 40s-60s.

But, of course, coming from you, this is a bit of slobbering on Sanders' balls. Lol. :geek:

"Rockmolder" wrote:



haha, was wondering if anyone would catch that. :)


I do feel the pecking order goes as follows, average, good, great, elite. I don't think there were that many elite running backs. I do think there were a lot of good and great running backs.

So to be elite, yes, I have high standards because I feel elite is just that, a high standard.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Of course, but would you really try to tell me that players like O.J. Simpson, Eric Dickerson, Walter Payton and Earl Campbell weren't elite players?
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Of course, but would you really try to tell me that players like O.J. Simpson, Eric Dickerson, Walter Payton and Earl Campbell weren't elite players?

"Rockmolder" wrote:



If you're implying that I'm narrow minded and think that the only determination of a good, great, elite, etc running back is predicated on yards per carry, please, rip your nuts off and eat them with oatmeal. I want to see proof on UserPostedImage
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