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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Coaches want the QB to avoid hits 

Green Bay -- The assistant coaches met with reporters this afternoon and there were a lot of questions about Aaron Rodgers. But as of 3 p.m. Monday, Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin hadn't seen or spoken to his quarterback, who was recovering from a concussion.

Philbin said the care, management and treatment of Rodgers' concussion was entirely up to the medical staff and he didn't know if there would be any special precautions taken for Rodgers this week, since this was Rodgers' second concussion in 10 weeks.

What Philbin can control, however, is whether or not to direct Rodgers to get down on more of those runs and slide so he can't get tackled.

"I thought we did that already," said Philbin, half jokingly. Remember, the coaches got on Rodgers after the Dallas game where Rodgers took an unnecessary shot running to the sidelines. He was lucky he wasn't hurt then.

After coming back from the bye, Rodgers vowed to slide more even though his running game is a great weapon.

"I think at times I've had a chip on my shoulder about my toughness, but that's not always the best thing to do," he said on the Mike McCarthy Show. "I took a shot on the sidelines against Dallas. I know Mike was probably very upset about that. That was more unintentional. For the most part, I like to slide and get down. But sometimes, very rarely, I try and prove I'm actually a real football player and can take a hit. That won't be happening too frequently here the last seven games."

Against Detroit, of course, it happened. With the offense struggling in every way -- fumbles, sacks, poor running -- Rodgers was clearly trying to get the offense going with a big play. Green Bay was 0 for 6 on third downs in the first half, Greg Jennings cave up a ball for an interception and left guard Daryn Colledge left with an injury. The Packers couldn't get anything going. Rodgers ran 18 yards before getting clobbered -- the longest run by any Packer for the day.

"Obviously you want competitive players. The guys want to make a play, they want to provide a spark to the offense obviously we were looking for a spark at that particular point of the game.

"But once you get the first down you have to be cognizant of where you are, where the pursuit is. People usually dont have eyes in the back of their head but you have to use your discretion and (judge) the significance of what the play can do to your teammates."

McCarthy said it is possible he won't know much about Rodgers until Thursday. It's another big week. The Packers face New England Sunday night.

Philbin said he doesn't have a specific rule for Rodgers on the slide. It's not like he should always go for the first down and then slide, or slide if it's an early down, no matter where he is, or slide as soon as there are defenders within close proximity.

"I think he saw the guy from the side when he went down; Im just not sure he saw them from both sides," said Philbin. "If Im not mistaken that was a first down scramble, so if hes wide open, obviously you want to be smart. If theres a lot of green grass, take what you can get. But dont put yourself in a precarious position."

Rodgers is known for having strong opinions on plays or calls but Philbin doesn't expect much of an argument from Rodgers in this case - the slide is preferred.

If anything, Philbin said the coaching staff needs to drive the point home after backup Matt Flynn also ran head first in to defenders in the second half.

"Was his a third down play? Yes. That was a little different situation. Still, he needs to slide as well. Theres no question about it. That one -- you dont excuse it and it was third down and all that other stuff but to be honest with you, were not getting it across as well as we need to. Were going to have to keep emphasizing it. Its like anything, you hope you get what you emphasize, and that didnt show up yesterday. I mean, the second play of the game, we fumble the ball. After jog through (in practice), thats the first thing we do is ball security. So weve got to keep working on it."


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Porforis
14 years ago
More annoyed at Flynn. You already saw what happens when you dive headfirst, and you have a WR backing you up. But Rodgers really needs to watch it...
Toddy
14 years ago

More annoyed at Flynn. You already saw what happens when you dive headfirst, and you have a WR backing you up. But Rodgers really needs to watch it...

"Porforis" wrote:



I was wondering about that last night, who was backing up Flynn? Is the WR your talking about James Jones? Cause I know he played QB in high school.

That would have been interesting if Flynn did get hurt diving for the first down on that play. Would like see Flynn slide short of the first down and punt rather than having Jones or maybe Starks back there playing QB.
Porforis
14 years ago

More annoyed at Flynn. You already saw what happens when you dive headfirst, and you have a WR backing you up. But Rodgers really needs to watch it...

"Toddy" wrote:



I was wondering about that last night, who was backing up Flynn? Is the WR your talking about James Jones? Cause I know he played QB in high school

"Porforis" wrote:



Jordy Nelson. Link came from Rockmolder IIRC: http://blogs.greenbaypressgazette.com/blogs/gpg/insider/2010/12/13/jordy-nelson-confirms-he-is-emergency-quarterback/ 
DanJustDan29
14 years ago
Am I a bad person for actually wanting to see Jordy at QB? Maybe if we are blowing the Patriots out that is....
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Pack93z
14 years ago
Flynn's was a bit different.. he was going for the first down..if he slides and is short we grill him for not going for it.

I say spark.. our offense was stagnate and struggling.. drops and getting killed up front with no running game to speak of.

And the team's effort wasn't one of high emotion.. bit flat.. a week ago Driver lite the fire.. someone needed to do it.

Playing on another surface.. or hit at a slightly different angle.. his head doesn't bounce off the turf.

The guy is a football player that ran into little bad luck on the hit.. and he will get hit again and again whether in the pocket or not.. and he has taken worse.

Much like a defensive player.. it all happens so fast and instincts kick in.. he seen a hole to dive through and dove.

BTW.. how many times has he been hit sliding feet first with no flag.. I can count a couple this season. No guarantee that he wouldn't get hurt that way either.

What next red jersey the QB's and attach a flag to them within the game?

I know.. bubble wrap. Bud light optional. ;)

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dfosterf
14 years ago
He got hurt. He should have slid. He didn't want to. He wanted to win, saw an extra couple, tried to get 'em, miscalculated, and we all pay, perhaps a lot.

He's a gamer, sue him.


If there is ANY additional risk associated with this by trotting him out next week, sit him.

I'm not going anywhere, fandom-wise, regardless of the outcome this year (yes, that includes the obligatory bitching 🙂 - ) -and neither is anyone else around here.
IronMan
14 years ago

If there is ANY additional risk associated with this by trotting him out next week, sit him.

I'm not going anywhere, fandom-wise, regardless of the outcome this year (yes, that includes the obligatory bitching 🙂 - ) -and neither is anyone else around here.

"dfosterf" wrote:


Well said. It would be nice to make the playoffs, but not at the risk of Aaron's long term health.
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