IronMan
  • IronMan
  • Veteran Member Topic Starter
14 years ago
Jason Werth sined a 7 year, $126 million contract with the Washington Nationals earlier this week. Afterward, I kept hearing experts, and fans say, "Carl Crawford should really cash in now, as his market value just increased based on Jason Werth's contract."

Huh? What Washington decided to pay Jason Werth has absolutely nothing to do with Carl Crawford's market value.

Just because Washington was stupid enough to over pay for an average player, doesnt mean teams should over pay Carl Crawford.

A player's market value is determined what other teams are willing to pay him. And we wonder why salaries are so outrageous in baseball. Owners/GM's have no clue how to negotiate.

Example: Ryan Howard signed a contract with the Phillies that will pay him about $25 million a year. So does that mean the Cardinals should pay Pujols $30 million a year?

If I'm the GM of the Cardinals, and Pujols' agent says, "Hey, the Phillies gave Howard $25 million a year, so Albert should get at least $30 million.", my respose would be, "Ok, if you can get other teams to offer him $30 million a year, then get back with me."

My point: MLB Gm's are stupid. Thats all.
14 years ago
Crawford to Boston, 7 years $142 million. :lol:
UserPostedImage
Pack93z
14 years ago



Example: Ryan Howard signed a contract with the Phillies that will pay him about $25 million a year. So does that mean the Cardinals should pay Pujols $30 million a year?

If I'm the GM of the Cardinals, and Pujols' agent says, "Hey, the Phillies gave Howard $25 million a year, so Albert should get at least $30 million.", my respose would be, "Ok, if you can get other teams to offer him $30 million a year, then get back with me."

"IronMan" wrote:



I agreed.. but then every knucklehead that has a mic and a radio broadcast will color you as not being loyal as the Yankees were with Jeter earlier this off season.

In all seriousness.. sooner or later there will be a breaking point in pro sports where they will just price themselves out of markets for fans.

Personally.. I have been cutting back on my sports related expenditures over the last decade.. even cutting the NFL Sunday ticket out of the budget this season.. and watching less and less.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
14 years ago
Agreed IM. It happens in the other sports as well. MLB seems to be worse about it. Makes no sense.
UserPostedImage
nathaniel
14 years ago



Example: Ryan Howard signed a contract with the Phillies that will pay him about $25 million a year. So does that mean the Cardinals should pay Pujols $30 million a year?

If I'm the GM of the Cardinals, and Pujols' agent says, "Hey, the Phillies gave Howard $25 million a year, so Albert should get at least $30 million.", my respose would be, "Ok, if you can get other teams to offer him $30 million a year, then get back with me."

"Pack93z" wrote:



I agreed.. but then every knucklehead that has a mic and a radio broadcast will color you as not being loyal as the Yankees were with Jeter earlier this off season.

In all seriousness.. sooner or later there will be a breaking point in pro sports where they will just price themselves out of markets for fans.

Personally.. I have been cutting back on my sports related expenditures over the last decade.. even cutting the NFL Sunday ticket out of the budget this season.. and watching less and less.

"IronMan" wrote:



I've been doing the same, Pack. Sunday ticket isn't really worth it anymore, especially with the NFL Red Zone channel. I can get RZ channel by itself for $40 a season through my new provider. I just can't justify spending $300 a season anymore.

I'll have to side with the Yankees on the Jeter deal. They still paid him more than he's worth (especially defensively), but they gave him the option of testing the market, but he refused. He says it was because he only wanted to play for the Yankees, but the truth is he knew no one would pay his asking price. He's worth more to NY than he is to any other team and he tried to take advantage of that, but they didn't budge.
blank
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Judging by the sample of Red Zone channel Kevin gave us this week, I couldn't watch it more than a few minutes at a time. The game hopping is so frenetic I started to feel nauseated. I'd rather watch a boring game all the way through than hop from game to game every 30 seconds.

Of course, I agree that $300 a season to watch NFL games is outlandishly expensive.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
beast (15h) : Seems like he was just pissed because he was no longer the starter
beast (15h) : Campbell is right, he's rich and he doesn't have to explain sh!t... but that attitude gives teams reasons to never sign him again.
dfosterf (22-Feb) : I have some doubt about all that
dfosterf (22-Feb) : I read De'Vondre Campbell's tweet this morning (via the New York Post) Florio says that if he invested his earnings wisely, he will be good
beast (20-Feb) : I haven't followed, but I believe he's good when healthy, just hasn't been able to stay healthy.
dfosterf (20-Feb) : Hasn"t Bosa missed more games than he has played in the last 3 years?
Mucky Tundra (19-Feb) : He hasn't been too bad when healthy but I don't feel like I ever heard much about when he is
Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : Felt like he was more interested in his body, than football. He flashed more than I expected
Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : When he was coming out, I thought he'd be flash in pan.
Mucky Tundra (19-Feb) : Joey seems so forgettable compared to his brother for some reason
Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : NFL informed teams today that the 2025 salary cap will be roughly $277.5M-$281.5M
Zero2Cool (19-Feb) : Los Angeles Chargers are likely to release DE Joey Bosa this off-season as a cap casualty, per league source.
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : If the exploit is not fixed, we'll see tons of "50 top free agents, 50 perfect NFL team fits: We picked where each should sign in March" lo
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Issue should be solved, database cleaned and held strong working / meeting. Boom!
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : It should be halted now.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : usually spambots are trying to get traffic to shady websites filled with spyware; the two links being spammed were to the Packers website
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : you know when you put it that way combined with the links it was spamming (to the official Packers website)
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yep. You can do that with holding down ENTER on a command in Console of browser
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : even with the rapid fire posts?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : I'm not certain it's a bot.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I've got to go to work soon which is a pity because I'm enthralled by this battle between the bot and Zero
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yeah, I see what that did. Kind of funny.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : now it's a link to Wes Hodkiezwicz mailbag
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Now they're back with another topic
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : oh lol
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : I have a script that purges them now.
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : 118 Topics with Message.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : what's 118 (besides a number)?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : They got 118 slapped in there.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : that's why it confused the hell out of me
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Yeah, but this is taking a headline and slapping it into the Packers Talk
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Wasnt there a time guests could post in the help forum?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : lol good question, kind of impressed!
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : So how is a guest posting?
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Tell them its an emergency
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Working. Meetings.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Lots of fun; the spam goes back 4 or 5 pages by this point
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I thought you'd look for yourself and put 2 and 2 together lol. I overestimated ya ;)
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : I thought Guests couldnt post?
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : And gosh that's gonna be fun to clean up! hahaa
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : Oh. Why not just say that then? Geez.
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : check the main forum, seems a spam bot is running amok
Zero2Cool (18-Feb) : What?
Mucky Tundra (18-Feb) : Is the Packers online game "Packers Predict" now available for 2024? I can't tell
Zero2Cool (17-Feb) : Bengals planning to Franchise Tag Tamaurice Higgins
Zero2Cool (14-Feb) : Packers are hiring Luke Getsy as senior offensive assistant.
Martha Careful (12-Feb) : I would love to have them both, esp. Crosby, but either might be too expensive.
Zero2Cool (12-Feb) : Keisean Nixon is trying to get Maxx Crosby and Davante Adams lol
Mucky Tundra (11-Feb) : Yeah where did it go?
packerfanoutwest (11-Feb) : or did you resctrict access to that topic?
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

22h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

23-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

22-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / TheKanataThrilla

19-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / MintBaconDrivel

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

16-Feb / Around The NFL / beast

16-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

16-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

15-Feb / Around The NFL / beast

15-Feb / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.