IronMan
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14 years ago
Jason Werth sined a 7 year, $126 million contract with the Washington Nationals earlier this week. Afterward, I kept hearing experts, and fans say, "Carl Crawford should really cash in now, as his market value just increased based on Jason Werth's contract."

Huh? What Washington decided to pay Jason Werth has absolutely nothing to do with Carl Crawford's market value.

Just because Washington was stupid enough to over pay for an average player, doesnt mean teams should over pay Carl Crawford.

A player's market value is determined what other teams are willing to pay him. And we wonder why salaries are so outrageous in baseball. Owners/GM's have no clue how to negotiate.

Example: Ryan Howard signed a contract with the Phillies that will pay him about $25 million a year. So does that mean the Cardinals should pay Pujols $30 million a year?

If I'm the GM of the Cardinals, and Pujols' agent says, "Hey, the Phillies gave Howard $25 million a year, so Albert should get at least $30 million.", my respose would be, "Ok, if you can get other teams to offer him $30 million a year, then get back with me."

My point: MLB Gm's are stupid. Thats all.
14 years ago
Crawford to Boston, 7 years $142 million. :lol:
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Pack93z
14 years ago



Example: Ryan Howard signed a contract with the Phillies that will pay him about $25 million a year. So does that mean the Cardinals should pay Pujols $30 million a year?

If I'm the GM of the Cardinals, and Pujols' agent says, "Hey, the Phillies gave Howard $25 million a year, so Albert should get at least $30 million.", my respose would be, "Ok, if you can get other teams to offer him $30 million a year, then get back with me."

"IronMan" wrote:



I agreed.. but then every knucklehead that has a mic and a radio broadcast will color you as not being loyal as the Yankees were with Jeter earlier this off season.

In all seriousness.. sooner or later there will be a breaking point in pro sports where they will just price themselves out of markets for fans.

Personally.. I have been cutting back on my sports related expenditures over the last decade.. even cutting the NFL Sunday ticket out of the budget this season.. and watching less and less.
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wpr
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14 years ago
Agreed IM. It happens in the other sports as well. MLB seems to be worse about it. Makes no sense.
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nathaniel
14 years ago



Example: Ryan Howard signed a contract with the Phillies that will pay him about $25 million a year. So does that mean the Cardinals should pay Pujols $30 million a year?

If I'm the GM of the Cardinals, and Pujols' agent says, "Hey, the Phillies gave Howard $25 million a year, so Albert should get at least $30 million.", my respose would be, "Ok, if you can get other teams to offer him $30 million a year, then get back with me."

"Pack93z" wrote:



I agreed.. but then every knucklehead that has a mic and a radio broadcast will color you as not being loyal as the Yankees were with Jeter earlier this off season.

In all seriousness.. sooner or later there will be a breaking point in pro sports where they will just price themselves out of markets for fans.

Personally.. I have been cutting back on my sports related expenditures over the last decade.. even cutting the NFL Sunday ticket out of the budget this season.. and watching less and less.

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I've been doing the same, Pack. Sunday ticket isn't really worth it anymore, especially with the NFL Red Zone channel. I can get RZ channel by itself for $40 a season through my new provider. I just can't justify spending $300 a season anymore.

I'll have to side with the Yankees on the Jeter deal. They still paid him more than he's worth (especially defensively), but they gave him the option of testing the market, but he refused. He says it was because he only wanted to play for the Yankees, but the truth is he knew no one would pay his asking price. He's worth more to NY than he is to any other team and he tried to take advantage of that, but they didn't budge.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Judging by the sample of Red Zone channel Kevin gave us this week, I couldn't watch it more than a few minutes at a time. The game hopping is so frenetic I started to feel nauseated. I'd rather watch a boring game all the way through than hop from game to game every 30 seconds.

Of course, I agree that $300 a season to watch NFL games is outlandishly expensive.
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