Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Frustrated, I hear ya. All these threads popping up like they're going out of style.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Maybe the offense has some sort of tell.

"nerdmann" wrote:

We do seem play the same things over and over again and when I'm calling the play before it happens, its not a good thing. I'm not that smart.
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago
You answered my next question NSD, about whether this nosedive is because of something like letting stardom get into his head or a factor like he is having to overcompensate for something else.

I agree the O-line play is piss poor, and I have focused most of my attention on them this season. I think Fox showed a stat in the 2nd half that in something like 35 throws, Aaron had been knocked down 7 times, hurried 6 times, and sacked 2 times. These obviously are not the exact numbers, but it was apparent that he was on his heels quite often.
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PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago

You answered my next question NSD, about whether this nosedive is because of something like letting stardom get into his head or a factor like he is having to overcompensate for something else.

I agree the O-line play is piss poor, and I have focused most of my attention on them this season. I think Fox showed a stat in the 2nd half that in something like 35 throws, Aaron had been knocked down 7 times, hurried 6 times, and sacked 2 times. These obviously are not the exact numbers, but it was apparent that he was on his heels quite often.

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Not to mention that defenses are harder to throw when they know the coach isn't going to call a run. Rodgers has almost checked to as many runs as McCarthy has called.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Is there an easy-to-access source of data on such statistical measures as hurries, hits, and knockdowns? If it exists on NFL.com, I'm not finding it.
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago
Your best bet would be profootball focus, or pro-football-reference.com. The former is no longer free to use, and the latter is run like a Wikipedia page with a bunch of different stats (not fan-edited, that was my error).

The latter might be fruitful, although you may need to invest time into finding under what category the stats are located.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Excellent. I think those numbers would paint a far more accurate picture of just how bad our offensive line is playing than the sack totals alone.
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&archive=false&d-447263-o=2&qualified=true&tabSeq=2&role=TM&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_QBHIT&d-447263-n=1 

That actually has the official QB hits an O-line has allowed stat for each team. It is the very last category on the right side. It lists 17 hits, though I am not sure if it has been updates through week 5.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Stats are typically not updated until after the Monday Night Football game.
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spicnspan320
14 years ago
The O-line was not playing well and Rodgers did not trust them at all. As soon as a tiny bit of a rush appeared, Rodgers panicked and tried to scramble out of the pocket and often he just ran into a defensive player when it was unnecessary.
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Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
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