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nerdmann
14 years ago
OK, since I took Starks as the guy I would report on, before this whole injury situation at the beginning of training camp, I figure I should man up and report on his status, even though he's still PUP'd. Check it out:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/103762424.html 

Of the three, Starks appears to be the closest to 100%. After aggravating a hamstring injury during the conditioning run at the start of training camp, Starks has rehabbed for almost two months and is running full speed.

The 2010 sixth-round pick attends all the running backs meetings and watches every play during practice in preparation for his return. Given Ryan Grant's season-ending injury, anything Starks could provide would be welcome.

"Basically I'm just strengthening it a little more," Starks said. "But I think I'm pretty good. I'm trying to see how much I can tolerate and make sure everything is 100%. But I'm fine right now."


NOTE: Can you dig? Dude could provide a "spark" at the RB position.
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago
He has not played football in about two years.

He missed all of training camp. He is a rookie.

Honestly, any production from Starks would be a bonus in my opinion. It is too much to expect him to come in and actually do anything considering he has had very limited reps in our system and has had no football contact in over two years.

I do not think Ted is fool enough to put all his eggs in Starks' basket. If our running game is struggling, I think someone outside the organization (via trade most probably) would provide more support than Starks could this year.
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BangTheDrum
14 years ago
After watching his highlight reels and combine work it's hard not to be a little excited, has a similar style to AP as far as running but obviously doesnt have the physical look and numbers. I don't see him being a huge factor this year simply because he hasnt played forever and is coming in way late although he does have fantastic potential.
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Jacob
14 years ago

has a similar style to AP

"BangTheDrum" wrote:




so we can expect a few fumbles each game? :icon_smile:
Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
I thought he looked a bit like Jim Brown. I compared his highlight reel with Browns.
He has great balance and won't go down with just a hit. You really have to tackle him.
He looked like he didn't like to run out of bounds.
He would avoid people behind him that he couldn't even see.
He has good hands and is fluid out of the backfield.
He makes some pretty amazing cuts and has great burst.
He has great vision.

If he had not hurt his shoulder and missed his senior year, he would have been a first round pick.
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yooperfan
14 years ago
I'm looking forward to seeing him next year coming in healthy with a full offseason workout program under his belt.
I don't expect much from him this season even if he does get on the field.
nerdmann
14 years ago

I thought he looked a bit like Jim Brown. I compared his highlight reel with Browns.
He has great balance and won't go down with just a hit. You really have to tackle him.
He looked like he didn't like to run out of bounds.
He would avoid people behind him that he couldn't even see.
He has good hands and is fluid out of the backfield.
He makes some pretty amazing cuts and has great burst.
He has great vision.

If he had not hurt his shoulder and missed his senior year, he would have been a first round pick.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:




Yeah, Kiper had him ranked as the second best RB in the country before the injury. Another value pick by Ted.
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djcubez
14 years ago

He has not played football in about two years.

He missed all of training camp. He is a rookie.

Honestly, any production from Starks would be a bonus in my opinion. It is too much to expect him to come in and actually do anything considering he has had very limited reps in our system and has had no football contact in over two years.

I do not think Ted is fool enough to put all his eggs in Starks' basket. If our running game is struggling, I think someone outside the organization (via trade most probably) would provide more support than Starks could this year.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



I agree with most of your assessment but the guy has been attending meetings. Since he's not on the field he's had more time to study the playbook and get to know the offense. I wouldn't expect anything from him in the first few weeks after he comes back but maybe later in the season. Plus, coming in as a RB has to be one of the easier positions to adjust to--for the most part you just get the ball and run. The hard part is picking up blitzes and knowing what to do on pass plays.
go.pack.go.
14 years ago
I definitely think that he would offer more than Dimitri Nance. Starks knows all of our plays, and I believe that he has a better skill-set.

I see Nance being cut in favor of him.
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago

I agree with most of your assessment but the guy has been attending meetings. Since he's not on the field he's had more time to study the playbook and get to know the offense. I wouldn't expect anything from him in the first few weeks after he comes back but maybe later in the season. Plus, coming in as a RB has to be one of the easier positions to adjust to--for the most part you just get the ball and run. The hard part is picking up blitzes and knowing what to do on pass plays.

"djcubez" wrote:




I just do not think attending meetings makes up for the fact he has a grand total of zero reps in our system. He may have had this time to get the playbook open and study it, but that does not mean he has been able to focus on some of the more physical aspects of practice (securing the ball, keeping his feet moving, understanding how to make adjustments to audibles, etc.).

I highly doubt Starks main focus is going to be coming in and getting the ball, then simply running. A lot in this scheme (zone-blocking) is predicated on the running back having good timing: being patient enough to let the backside blocks (cuts) occur and then cutting it back for positive gains. He simply cannot get that without having taken a rep in training camp, let alone not having played football in about two years.

Starks may have potential, but asking anyone two do something - especially at a higher level - two years after they did it last is asking a bit much. Starks is now playing in a league where everyone is that much faster and stronger, and taking mental reps is much different from taking live reps where a hesitation of a slight second may be the difference between the QB throwing a TD and the QB getting planted and injured.

I simply cannot be led to believe that Starks will provide anything beyond minimal value this season. And I think anyone in the higher places of this organization would be fool to think the RB position would be alright as long as Starks is activated.
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