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Packers_Finland
14 years ago

lolz.

i love how everybody gets after week 2. DUDE. it's week 2, mmkay? mmkay.

"TwinkieGorilla" wrote:



You know he did this after week 1 right? This is just to show where we, and everyone else is at right now.
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14 years ago


That has nothing to do with the original post you responded to so good job I guess. You went out of your way to act like a dick to the OP and were off base since his post isn't an overreaction of any sort.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



holy shit, dude! calm yourself! can you please take things that aren't serious at all any more seriously? what the fuck.


You know he did this after week 1 right? This is just to show where we, and everyone else is at right now.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



no, i guess i missed that. also: DUDES. seriously, take it easy. my post was simply a post laughing at how us NFL fans can be. heck, i even do stuff like that myself. you guys take me WAY too seriously. like...WAAAAY too seriously. goodness gracious! :pottytrain2:

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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CaliforniaCheez
14 years ago
Please do not misunderstand.
I like knowing exactly who is where because of the tiebreakers. There are no ties.
No website does this so I do it for myself.
I provide it here as a service to anyone who might be interested.
I keep cumulative data every week so it is handy. You can't start this week 10 and hope to be accurate.

Some things to stimulate conversation might be:

1) If the Bears were in another division the Packers would be number one seed in the NFC. The Bears have a better division record until Monday.
Of the undefeated teams in the NFC the packers have the highest Strength of Victory and Strength of Schedule.


2) Another point of posting this is to see the "big games" for position next week. They are the Packers at Bears, Falcons at Saints, Steelers at Tampa Bay, and Jets at Dolphins.

3) Keeping in touch with reality is better than seeing the vikings and cowboys still up on somebody's power rankings.

I'm hoping for the Packers to be the only undefeated team in the NFC next week.

Nobody question why some team that is 2-0 in the conference is ahead of a 1-0 team. The answer is that the tiebreaker is winning percentage.

Later on I can post the top of the draft order for the next draft using non-playoff teams. That has only two factors. Winning % and Strength of Schedule.

For example right now the top pick of next year's draft goes to the Rams. SF, CAR, Dal, DET are tied for second, MN, BUF, CLE, are tied for 7th.
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RaiderPride
14 years ago

Please do not misunderstand.
I like knowing exactly who is where because of the tiebreakers. There are no ties.
No website does this so I do it for myself.
I provide it here as a service to anyone who might be interested.
I keep cumulative data every week so it is handy. You can't start this week 10 and hope to be accurate.

Some things to stimulate conversation might be:

1) If the Bears were in another division the Packers would be number one seed in the NFC. The Bears have a better division record until Monday.
Of the undefeated teams in the NFC the packers have the highest Strength of Victory and Strength of Schedule.


2) Another point of posting this is to see the "big games" for position next week. They are the Packers at Bears, Falcons at Saints, Steelers at Tampa Bay, and Jets at Dolphins.

3) Keeping in touch with reality is better than seeing the vikings and cowboys still up on somebody's power rankings.

I'm hoping for the Packers to be the only undefeated team in the NFC next week.

Nobody question why some team that is 2-0 in the conference is ahead of a 1-0 team. The answer is that the tiebreaker is winning percentage.

Later on I can post the top of the draft order for the next draft using non-playoff teams. That has only two factors. Winning % and Strength of Schedule.

For example right now the top pick of next year's draft goes to the Rams. SF, CAR, Dal, DET are tied for second, MN, BUF, CLE, are tied for 7th.

"CaliforniaCheez" wrote:



I love this thread.

And sorry Nonstop. This does belong right here. Not in the NFL section. It is food for thought, informative, and allows me on one quick glance to take a look at the Packers season. After all this year will end up in Dallas in a final game against the AFC Champions.

GREAT THREAD TO FOLLOW.
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
So are you saying that if the Packers win on Monday, they will become the top seed in the NFC?
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CaliforniaCheez
14 years ago

So are you saying that if the Packers win on Monday, they will become the top seed in the NFC?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



There is a chance.
The Packers would be #1 in the NFC right now if the Bears did not have a division win or the Bears were in another division. Head to head the Packers beat #1 Tampa Bay. Their records are tied, their conference record is tied, the Packers have a higher strength of victory, higher strength of schedule, and higher net points than Tampa Bay. But the Packers are behind the Bears.

I don't do future predictions because there are too many variables.
I track the information and at a point in time, like right after the weekend's games I can tell you what is there at the moment.

What I was pointing out is that by looking at thes standing you can which games are larger than the others.

For example when #11 vikings host the #12 Lions it doesn't matter so much as the #7 Falcons at #6 Saints or the #2 Bears hosting the #5 Packers.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I understand the concept of "strength of schedule" on an intuitive level, and i'm sure the formula is very simple (winning percentage of opponents, most likely), but may I ask where you found the actual definition of the term as enunciated by the NFL itself?
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Finley88Beast
14 years ago
why arent we ahead of the bears.......
A Quote from my brother Mike(Bears Fan)
"Fucking Greg Jennings"
After he makes a catch
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14 years ago

why arent we ahead of the bears.......

"Finley88Beast" wrote:



I would assume it is because they 1. played and beat a division opponent. 2. Played and won 2 conference games while GB has only 1 conference win.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
You are correct. CaliforniaCheez already explained this in detail.

Based on the order of tiebreakers, Finley, what would make you think the Packers should be on top?
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