dyeah_gb
15 years ago
I think we need to thank Lovie Smith for vaporizing nearly all his timeouts in one fells swoop with the timeout/ terrible challenge at the end of the game. It sure made running out the clock alot easier for us.
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15 years ago
WGN's Dave Kaplan 


Let's go to Sunday's loss to the arch rival Green Bay Packers. The Bears are trying to drive for the tying touchdown and Jay Cutler throws a pass to Greg Olsen which he grabs but does not control through the catch and it is ruled incomplete. Smith takes his first charged timeout of the 2nd half. After the timeout and just before the next play is run he decides to challenge the previous play. That means if the challenge is not successful the Bears will lose another timeout without one second running off of the clock.

Well, that is exactly what happened. The challenge lost, the drive stalled and the Bears never did score again losing to Green Bay 21-14. Who knows if they would have scored if they had an extra timeout. Common sense tells me no but you can't dispute the fact that they would have run their final drive differently if they would have had another timeout to work with.

Also, Lovie Smith told the media after the game that the reason they called the first timeout on that play was because they had "some things going on" that necessitated using it. Just what those "things" were he did not say but offensive coordinator Ron Turner said there was nothing going on that would have warranted using another timeout.


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15 years ago
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However, the Bears decision to call a timeout before throwing the red flag is up for debate.

"For the first timeout, things just weren't right and we needed to call a timeout to take care of some things," Smith said after the game. "That is separate.

"Without going into detail, I called it for the same reason you always use a timeout -- things weren't right, and we wanted to make sure we were in the best situation. Again, after that, it was two separate situations."

"We're shifting up our personnel, trying to get a call, and before you know it the play clock is down to twelve," Bears quarterback Jay Cutler explained. "It's happened to us a few times this year, so I had to burn one. It just happens. Anytime there's a big play, something down field, it's up for grabs like that. Guys are pushing and shoving getting off the pile, taking to the refs, and trying to figure out what happened. The clock is running during that time.






:onfloor: :onfloor: :onfloor: Thanks Lovie
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
Always somebody else's fault, just like the interception, eh Jay?
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Cheesey
15 years ago
Lovie.....your main goal is to beat the Packers........YOU LOSE!!!LOLOL!!!
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Dulak
15 years ago

Lovie.....your main goal is to beat the Packers........YOU LOSE!!!LOLOL!!!

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hehe nice one Cheesey ... ya preseason the cutler trade was the most talked about news ... and how great the bears would do with it. Now they are still out a bunch of draft picks (so we can pick em apart even more 😉
Cheesey
15 years ago
Thanks Dulak!
I REALLY thought Cutler was gonna do well. I'm actually surprised at how bad he looks. I'm surprised.....but HAPPY!
I can't help but wonder if Lovie's time is over in Chicago.
And if they DO can Lovie, i can't help but wonder who their next coach would be.........the Skipper, Mary Ann, Ginger, GILLIGAN!?!?!
(That was for the "old folks" here)
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warhawk
15 years ago
The article can say whatever but the truth is the Bears put two drives together all day and were damn lucky Woodson dropped one right in his hands on one at the goal line.

They had 30 minutes in the second half and couldn't put up a point while we were driving repeatedly only to miss a FG, or fumble after a reception, or, trying to throw it to ourselves twice.

The Bears were lucky to even be in this game but then again their games are always ugly. I can't remember the last time they won a well played game so complaining about when they took timeouts is about right.

Two drives all day and Bears fans everywhere are probably saying this one should have been a W. They are so far removed from what a well played game looks like it's rediculous.
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IronMan
15 years ago
That was the dumbest challenge in the history of challenges. Does Lovie not know the rules?
LambeauEast
15 years ago
Thank you, Lovie! The only thing worse would be if he thought he had another challenge available when he didn't. Only a complete and utter moron would do th....oops, wait...nevermind! Thank you, Lovie!
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