15 years ago
why is it that every time McCarthy says "it's something we need to look at" the situation gets fucking worse? could our special teams get any fucking worse and could we possible get any more goddamn flags this year? if flags grew on trees the world would be treeless thanks to us.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


warhawk
15 years ago
For one thing it would help greatly if Crosby was told to NEVER kick the ball down the MIDDLE again. Every time the opposing team gets a big return it's right down the middle of the field.

From what I have seen I would kick it to the opposing teams right side every time. That's where we seem to get the best coverage but those guys in the middle have a real problem getting off their blocks.

It's not a big thing but I think it would help prevent these straight forward sprints. One thing I did see was Tramon is pretty darn fast. That guy was gone and he caught him.
"The train is leaving the station."
PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
Why doesn't Crosby use that mule leg and kick the ball out of the endzone???

Either we need the Coaches to quit telling him to float it, or we need to find another kicker who can kick it deep and have above a 75% success rate.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Click HERE  to read how Crosby doesn't think it's fair for people to say he's not doing good. Awww, CUT HIS ASS!

When he was 13 of 14 with 49 or less, I had his back. Albeit 1 of 5 50+. Comparing that to others, it wasn't that far off.

Now he has a over all 76% rate and the special team coach and the kicker don't think there's a problem? The dude missed a 38 yarder!

If he misses another one under 40, I'm 100% finished with him. He has a monster leg, I think the holder sucks, and I don't like the special teams coach much. So, I'm 'sort' of on the fence with him, but leaning off to the 'cut his ass' side.
UserPostedImage
15 years ago
If we cut him you know he'll go to some team and become one of the top 3 kickers in the league almost immediately.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
15 years ago

If we cut him you know he'll go to some team and become one of the top 3 kickers in the league almost immediately.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:

So we should keep the guy because he has potential? No, not at all.


Make him think he's going to be cut. Stop making excuses for him, (coaching staff that is) and bring in some competition. Make him sweat, make him understand he is NOT doing well. This cavalier attitude toward makeable kicks that are misses, bugs the shit out of me.

Take Aaron Rodgers, he throws three TD's and one INT, he talks about how he needs to do better and not make that INT. Greg Jennings and Mason Crosby and someone else, I forget who, they each blow there mistakes off and imply they do more good than bad so its okay. When you think like that, I think you've lost a step mentality and have given up on progressing.

You're a professional, you are expected to do great things and your accountable for focusing on your mistakes and correcting them. I'm fine with a mistake, I have no problem with mistakes. i have a problem when a mistake is viewed as minor cuz of the good one does. Wrong, you need to learn from that mistake, correct it, and it needs to occur less frequently, not more frequently.
UserPostedImage
Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member
15 years ago
He's a kicker. He's supposed to be a flake.

Remember Ryan "there was a piece of grass on one side of the ball which changed the trajectory" Longwell?
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Cheesey
  • Cheesey
  • Preferred Member Topic Starter
15 years ago
I don't understand it.....whats so hard about coaching ST's???
I mean, you have your guy kick the ball, the others run down and tackle.

Whats so hard about that?
Maybe they do good in practice because they are practicing against our own lame return team.
Bring in the local GB high school team and make them kick to them. Maybe they would learn something.
UserPostedImage
Rockmolder
15 years ago

He's a kicker. He's supposed to be a flake.

Remember Ryan "there was a piece of grass on one side of the ball which changed the trajectory" Longwell?

"Wade" wrote:



Maybe that's a little over the top, but a lot goes into kicking a ball right.

That was my European side speaking.

I don't understand it.....whats so hard about coaching ST's???
I mean, you have your guy kick the ball, the others run down and tackle.

"Cheesemeister" wrote:



You'd nearly think that our coaching staff thinks this way.

With all the poor angles we're taking, it's a miracle that we're not giving up more big plays. Especially against the Browns.

But a part of this might lay within the kicker and punter, as well. I think that everyone's noticed that Crosby is kicking some floaters out there. He used to kick them in a little low. Line drives pretty much. Kapinos either outkicks his coverage or shanks it.

It's just a combination of the 3 that's screwing us over.

I'm still going for a punter in the 5th round or something. Maybe one who can kick-off, as well, if need be.
all_about_da_packers
15 years ago

With all the poor angles we're taking, it's a miracle that we're not giving up more big plays. Especially against the Browns.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Can't remember where I read it, but someone made an interesting argument: perhaps the simplistic schemes on STs are coming back to hurt us now.

When the person analyzed the long return, he/she said there was simply terrible coverage up the middle, almost like the Ravens knew what lanes the ST players were going to run into, and the Ravens simply blocked the guys from getting in those lanes.

He also noted that ST coach Slocum has had to simply the schemes as a result of the failures early on, and now our problem is more the fact that there simply isn't enough schematic creativity to confuse other teams and free up our tacklers consistently. When other teams are seeing the same simple stuff 3-4 times before, by the fifth - sixth time our scheme is so simple that setting up blocks isn't an issue for opposing teams.



I'm still going for a punter in the 5th round or something. Maybe one who can kick-off, as well, if need be.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



I'm Kapinos' biggest critic, but to be fair he's done a darn good job lately. Especially against the Ravens, he was very good. His net yards could stand to improve, but his kicking was outstanding. He had 4.45 seconds of hang time and 43 gross... really good production considering the weather.

Right now, I'd much rather spend a 5th on a kicker, if we draft a specialist.
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
Fan Shout
beast (7h) : What is he supposed to say? He doesn't want players currently on the team?
Martha Careful (12h) : meh
Zero2Cool (16h) : Sounds like Walker and Wyatt will be with Packers for beyond 2026
Zero2Cool (16h) : It's so awesome.
Zero2Cool (16h) : new site fan shout post fast
wpr (19h) : Slow posting in Fan shout.
wpr (19h) : Only 4
wpr (19h) : Only 4
Zero2Cool (22h) : If only we had a topic to read about and discuss it. That's something new website must have!!!
dfosterf (23h) : Justice Musqueda over at Acme Packing put up an excellent synopsis of the Packers 1st round options this am
wpr (19-Apr) : 5 days
beast (18-Apr) : 6 days
wpr (17-Apr) : 7 days
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.
dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move
dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately
Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.
dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
9h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

17-Apr / Random Babble / wpr

16-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

13-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

12-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

11-Apr / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Rockmolder

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

30-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

29-Mar / Random Babble / wpr

28-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

26-Mar / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.