wpr
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15 years ago

Back on topic.........................................man it's cold here. Minus 21 at our house right now and I gotta get the truck started to go substitute today.

"MontanaBob" wrote:



No school in Northern Illinois today. Snow storm dumped about 8 inches with more falling. Winds picking up and temps dropping sub zero. (Fahrenheit for our foreign friends. -18 Celsius.)
i am sure it is worse up north.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Sub me? What??
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dfosterf
15 years ago
Nutritional value of apricots 














How's that for off-topic, Alan? :thumbleft:
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15 years ago

Sub me? What??

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



+1.
I am putting you on the bench big guy and putting Cheesey in in your place. Watch and learn from the master. :icon_smile:
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15 years ago

Nutritional value of apricots 














How's that for off-topic, Alan? :thumbleft:

"dfosterf" wrote:



Peach-y.

As the Brits would say, this thread has gone all pear-shaped.

Horse apples.

(sigh...I can't think of a single pun using nectarines)

So I'm just gonna go bananas instead.
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dfosterf
15 years ago

Nutritional value of apricots 


Coriolis rotation can conceivably play a role on scales as small as a crapper. It is a commonly held myth that the every-day rotation of a bathtub or toilet vortex is due to whether one is in the northern or southern hemisphere. An article in Nature, by Ascher Shapiro, describes an experiment in which all other forces to the system are removed by filling a 6 ft. tank with water and allowing it to settle for 24 hrs (to remove any internal velocity), in a room where the temperature has stabilized (temperature differences in the room can introduce forces inside the fluid). The drain plug is then very slowly removed, and tiny pieces of floating wood are used to observe rotation. During the first 12 to 15 minutes, no rotation is observed. Then, a vortex appears and consistently begins to rotate in a counter-clockwise direction (the experiment was performed in the Northern hemisphere, in Boston, MA). This is repeated and the results averaged to make sure the effect is real. The Coriolis effect does indeed play a role in vortex rotation for draining liquids that have come to rest for a long time.
In reality, this experiment shows that the Coriolis effect is a few orders of magnitude smaller than various random influences on drain direction, such as the geometry of the container and the direction in which water was initially added to it. In the above experiment, if the water settles for 2 hrs or less (instead of 24), then the vortex can be seen to rotate in either direction. Most toilets flush in only one direction, because the toilet water flows into the bowl at an angle. If water shot into the basin from the opposite direction, the water would spin in the opposite direction.
The idea that toilets and bathtubs drain differently in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres has been popularized by several television programs, including The Simpsons "Bart vs. Australia, and the The X-Files episode "Die Hand Die Verletz.
Several science broadcasts and publications, including at least one college-level physics textbook, have also stated this. Some sources that incorrectly attribute draining direction to the Coriolis force also get the direction wrong, claiming that water would turn clockwise into drains in the Northern Hemisphere.
The Rossby number can also tell us about the bathtub. If the length scale of the tub is about L = 1 m, and the water moves towards the drain at about U = 60 cm/s, then the Rossby number is about 6 000. Thus, the bathtub is, in terms of scales, much like a game of catch, and rotation is unlikely to be important.
In purely non-vector terms: at a given rate of rotation of the observer, the magnitude of the Coriolis acceleration of the object is proportional to the velocity of the object and also to the sine of the angle between the direction of movement of the object and the axis of rotation.
The vector formula for the magnitude and direction of the Coriolis acceleration is:

[omitted in the interest of brevity] lol

where v is the velocity of the particle in the rotating system, and is the angular velocity which has magnitude equal to the rotation rate and is directed along the axis of rotation of the rotating reference frame, and the symbol represents the cross product operator.
The equation may be multiplied by the mass of the relevant object to produce the Coriolis force:
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Fictitous Force would be a derivation.
The Coriolis effect is the behavior added by the Coriolis acceleration. The formula implies that the Coriolis acceleration is perpendicular both to the direction of the velocity of the moving mass and to the frame's rotation axis. So in particular:
if the velocity is parallel to the rotation axis, the Coriolis acceleration is zero.
if the velocity is straight inward to the axis, the acceleration is in the direction of local rotation.
if the velocity is straight outward from the axis, the acceleration is against the direction of local rotation.
if the velocity is in the direction of local rotation, the acceleration is outward from the axis.
if the velocity is against the direction of local rotation, the acceleration is inward to the axis.
The vector cross product can be evaluated as the determinant of a matrix

Shitter water has the potential to flow either clock-wise OR counter-clock-wise, regardless of latitudinal or longitudinal influences.















How's that for off-topic, Alan? :thumbleft:

"Wade" wrote:



Peach-y.

As the Brits would say, this thread has gone all pear-shaped.

Horse apples.

(sigh...I can't think of a single pun using nectarines)

So I'm just gonna go bananas instead.

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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Did you know that nectarines and peaches are genetically the same species and in fact can grow together on the same tree?
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

Did you know that nectarines and peaches are genetically the same species and in fact can grow together on the same tree?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



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dfosterf
15 years ago
Cheesey has his work cut out for him tryin' to get this one back on track, lol
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Although its botanical name Prunus persica suggests the peach is native to Persia, it actually originated in China where it has been cultivated since the early days of Chinese culture. Peaches were mentioned in Chinese writings as far back as the tenth century BC and were a favored fruit of emperors.

Its English name derives originally from the Latin prunus persica, then persica, then pessica, then pesca, then the French pche, then "peach" in middle English.

The Persians brought the peach from China and passed it on to the Romans. The peach was brought to America by Spanish explorers in the sixteenth century and eventually made it to England and France in the seventeenth century, where it was a prized albeit rare treat.

A horticultist by the name of George Minifie supposedly brought the first peaches from England to the USA in the early seventeenth century, planting them at his Estate of Buckland in Virginia.

Various American Indian tribes are credited with spreading the peach tree across the United States, taking seeds along with them and planting as they roved the country.

Although Thomas Jefferson had peach trees at Monticello, United States farmers did not begin commercial production until the nineteenth century in Maryland, Delaware, Georgia and finally Virginia. California grows 65% of peaches grown for commercial production in the United States, but the northern states, Colorado, Michigan, and Washington also grow a significant amount. Italy, China, India and Greece are major producers of peaches outside of the United States.
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