dhazer
15 years ago
well he is a finalist atleast
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
Yerko
15 years ago
Suh is real good. The crazy thing about the dude is they are always talking about him being what...310 pounds? He sure is a lean 310 pounder because he looks to me like 280 pound guy. Athletic and powerful...

If the Packers didn't have so many concerns in other places, I'd love for him to be a defensive end in our 3-4 scheme...*drools*
toronto_cheesehead
15 years ago

Suh certainly deserves to win. The guy is just an absolute force

"Rockmolder" wrote:



All this talk about Suh just reminds me of how great Justin could've been. Damned injuries.

"TengoJuego" wrote:



lol, yeah right. Suh is light years better than Harrell was or ever will be.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Based on? From the college games, Justin was more raw, but flashed that same potential. It'll always be a question mark just how good he could've been, but I don't think that this is totally out of the question.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



Harrell may have flashed some potential for the Vols, but Suh was the most dominant player on the field on almost a weekly basis. From the defensive tackle position, he put up a stat-line this year that would make a lot of linebackers envious.

I agree that Harrell was a legitimate first round talent when we drafted him, but at no time was he ever considered a Heisman finalist and potential first pick overall.

Hopefully Woodson gives him a vote, but I think Ingram's performance against Florida and the position he plays will get him the trophy.
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TengoJuego
15 years ago

Suh certainly deserves to win. The guy is just an absolute force

"Rockmolder" wrote:



All this talk about Suh just reminds me of how great Justin could've been. Damned injuries.

"TengoJuego" wrote:



lol, yeah right. Suh is light years better than Harrell was or ever will be.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Based on? From the college games, Justin was more raw, but flashed that same potential. It'll always be a question mark just how good he could've been, but I don't think that this is totally out of the question.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



Based on? Have you seen Suh play?!

There was no "potential" with Suh at the College level. He reached his potential. He was the best defensive player in the country. Heisman contender, every single down player. Harrell was a second team All-American, who had a decent season and was highly drafted in company with an overrated draft class at his position.

In terms of NFL potential, if Suh simply plays a full season, he's already surpassed Harrell.

Harrell is a big nobody as far as I'm concerned. A "bust" if you will. I see no potential in him. Injuries or not.

Even if he gets healthy, while under contract, is he anything more than a rotation player? Would you really rather see him in the game over Pickett or Raji?

I'd give up Raji & Pickett just to have Suh. He's a special player. One of those players that only comes around every few years.
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Harrell should be the most grateful man alive. He has done absolutely nothing and yet has enough money to live well for the rest of his life. Everyone should be so fortunate.
Rockmolder
15 years ago

Suh certainly deserves to win. The guy is just an absolute force

"TengoJuego" wrote:



All this talk about Suh just reminds me of how great Justin could've been. Damned injuries.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



lol, yeah right. Suh is light years better than Harrell was or ever will be.

"TengoJuego" wrote:



Based on? From the college games, Justin was more raw, but flashed that same potential. It'll always be a question mark just how good he could've been, but I don't think that this is totally out of the question.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Based on? Have you seen Suh play?!

There was no "potential" with Suh at the College level. He reached his potential. He was the best defensive player in the country. Heisman contender, every single down player. Harrell was a second team All-American, who had a decent season and was highly drafted in company with an overrated draft class at his position.

In terms of NFL potential, if Suh simply plays a full season, he's already surpassed Harrell.

Harrell is a big nobody as far as I'm concerned. A "bust" if you will. I see no potential in him. Injuries or not.

Even if he gets healthy, while under contract, is he anything more than a rotation player? Would you really rather see him in the game over Pickett or Raji?

I'd give up Raji & Pickett just to have Suh. He's a special player. One of those players that only comes around every few years.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



There's no denying that Suh had a far better college career, but like you said, Suh has reached his potential, Harrell had not.

I personally think that he wasn't even close to it, with some of the flashes he showed. He could've been special.

Again, Suh is the more surefire guy, but I don't think that it's that much of a stretch to think that Harrell could've gone to that same level. Hence why I don't mind the pick. It's like Harvin for Vikings. At one point, the value is too high to pass up on.
TengoJuego
15 years ago

Again, Suh is the more surefire guy, but I don't think that it's that much of a stretch to think that Harrell could've gone to that same level. Hence why I don't mind the pick. It's like Harvin for Vikings. At one point, the value is too high to pass up on.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



You really think he was a high level pick?
djcubez
15 years ago

Suh certainly deserves to win. The guy is just an absolute force

"British" wrote:



All this talk about Suh just reminds me of how great Justin could've been. Damned injuries.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



I wonder what we'll do with Justin this off season. He's due a bigger pay check this coming year so I thought he might be let go.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



If we cut him I doubt any team will take a chance on him so I think we'll probably look to restructure his contract if we end up keeping him.
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