macbob
  • macbob
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15 years ago

Question:

There were no forums back then, so a Packer Fan has to tell me.

How the hell did Bart Star last 9 years as coach. He won what perhaps 5o something games and had about 80 losses.

Seems to me Mike deserves a little longer. The team is 500.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



RP: Reason was that Bart Starr was a hall of fame quarterback who had led the Packers to two Superbowl wins and 3 championships before the Superbowls started. Nobody had the guts/balls to fire him. But those years were bad years to be a Packers fan. Part of 20+ years of mediocrity (at best, and suckricity at worst). We don't want to go through anything like that again.

We're 4-4, and 5 of the teams we've played are a combined 8-32 (8-32 is a .200 winning percentage). A .500 record against the caliber of opponents we've faced is pathetic.
djcubez
15 years ago

Question:

There were no forums back then, so a Packer Fan has to tell me.

How the hell did Bart Star last 9 years as coach. He won what perhaps 5o something games and had about 80 losses.

Seems to me Mike deserves a little longer. The team is 500.

"RaiderPride" wrote:


I think I agree somewhat. Consistency is what a team needs to get better. Changing coaches and schemes constantly only hurts a football team. With that said I think right now the Packers have the wrong kind of consistency. If they can turn it around MM deserves more time to get this team to the Super Bowl. People are clamoring for Cowher but how long did it take him to finally get his super bowl win?

In Cowhers 15 seasons, the Steelers captured eight division titles, earned ten postseason playoff berths, played in 21 playoff games, advanced to six AFC Championship games and made two Super Bowl appearances. He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least seven division titles



Sure he made it to a Super Bowl in his first four years but McCarthy was close in '97. If he doesn't do good this year I still think one more year would be worth it. It'd be tough to pass up though just because of all the experienced head coach candidates out there. I just don't want to see a few years of mediocrity from a new coach, I'd rather see if MM can really take us to the big game. Unless he tanks this season.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Question:

There were no forums back then, so a Packer Fan has to tell me.

How the hell did Bart Star last 9 years as coach. He won what perhaps 5o something games and had about 80 losses.

Seems to me Mike deserves a little longer. The team is 500.

"djcubez" wrote:


I think I agree somewhat. Consistency is what a team needs to get better. Changing coaches and schemes constantly only hurts a football team. With that said I think right now the Packers have the wrong kind of consistency. If they can turn it around Mike McCarthy deserves more time to get this team to the Super Bowl. People are clamoring for Cowher but how long did it take him to finally get his super bowl win?

In Cowhers 15 seasons, the Steelers captured eight division titles, earned ten postseason playoff berths, played in 21 playoff games, advanced to six AFC Championship games and made two Super Bowl appearances. He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least seven division titles

"RaiderPride" wrote:



Sure he made it to a Super Bowl in his first four years but McCarthy was close in '97. If he doesn't do good this year I still think one more year would be worth it. It'd be tough to pass up though just because of all the experienced head coach candidates out there. I just don't want to see a few years of mediocrity from a new coach, I'd rather see if Mike McCarthy can really take us to the big game. Unless he tanks this season.




lol '97 😉
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djcubez
15 years ago

Question:

There were no forums back then, so a Packer Fan has to tell me.

How the hell did Bart Star last 9 years as coach. He won what perhaps 5o something games and had about 80 losses.

Seems to me Mike deserves a little longer. The team is 500.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:


I think I agree somewhat. Consistency is what a team needs to get better. Changing coaches and schemes constantly only hurts a football team. With that said I think right now the Packers have the wrong kind of consistency. If they can turn it around Mike McCarthy deserves more time to get this team to the Super Bowl. People are clamoring for Cowher but how long did it take him to finally get his super bowl win?

In Cowhers 15 seasons, the Steelers captured eight division titles, earned ten postseason playoff berths, played in 21 playoff games, advanced to six AFC Championship games and made two Super Bowl appearances. He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least seven division titles

"djcubez" wrote:



Sure he made it to a Super Bowl in his first four years but McCarthy was close in '97. If he doesn't do good this year I still think one more year would be worth it. It'd be tough to pass up though just because of all the experienced head coach candidates out there. I just don't want to see a few years of mediocrity from a new coach, I'd rather see if Mike McCarthy can really take us to the big game. Unless he tanks this season.

"RaiderPride" wrote:




lol '97 ;)


I edit and I edit and I still have a damn typo. !*@$#&(!
nerdmann
15 years ago

Question:

There were no forums back then, so a Packer Fan has to tell me.

How the hell did Bart Star last 9 years as coach. He won what perhaps 5o something games and had about 80 losses.

Seems to me Mike deserves a little longer. The team is 500.

"RaiderPride" wrote:




They're .500, but a very UGLY .500.
If Starr would've had another year, we'd have been in the playoffs. He had a great offense, and was finally getting some defense to go with it.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
macbob
  • macbob
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15 years ago


If Starr would've had another year, we'd have been in the playoffs. He had a great offense, and was finally getting some defense to go with it.

"nerdmann" wrote:



Starr had five seasons where 5-9 was the BEST record with one winning season (8-7-1) mixed in, then his last three seasons went 8-8, 5-3-1 (strike season), and 8-8.

Making the playoffs would have been highly debatable. Forrest Gregg, his replacement, who had taken Cincinnati to the Superbowl two years prior couldn't do better than 8-8 his first two years leading the team (before dipping to 4-12 and 5-9-1 and resigning).
WhiskeySam
15 years ago
And here I had almost blocked those memories out 😞
Nemo me impune lacessit
Wade
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15 years ago

Question:

There were no forums back then, so a Packer Fan has to tell me.

How the hell did Bart Star last 9 years as coach. He won what perhaps 5o something games and had about 80 losses.

Seems to me Mike deserves a little longer. The team is 500.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



Bart had five world championships and was [sorry, is] one of the classiest guys any Packer fans ever saw. And he followed the coach who gutted the future with the Lawrence Welk ("and a one, and a two, and a one and a two...") trade for John Hadl.

I'm not saying you're wrong about "more time." But that, IMO, is why Starr got 9 years and no other unsuccessful coach ever will.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
macbob
  • macbob
  • Veteran Member Topic Starter
15 years ago

Question:

There were no forums back then, so a Packer Fan has to tell me.

How the hell did Bart Star last 9 years as coach. He won what perhaps 5o something games and had about 80 losses.

Seems to me Mike deserves a little longer. The team is 500.

"Wade" wrote:



Bart had five world championships and was [sorry, is] one of the classiest guys any Packer fans ever saw. And he followed the coach who gutted the future with the Lawrence Welk ("and a one, and a two, and a one and a two...") trade for John Hadl.

I'm not saying you're wrong about "more time." But that, IMO, is why Starr got 9 years and no other unsuccessful coach ever will.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



Oh, great. I had managed to block THAT memory out...2 1sts, a 2nd, and 2 3rds for a guy who threw 9 TDs and 29 INTs in 2 years with the Packers...
nerdmann
15 years ago


If Starr would've had another year, we'd have been in the playoffs. He had a great offense, and was finally getting some defense to go with it.

"macbob" wrote:



Starr had five seasons where 5-9 was the BEST record with one winning season (8-7-1) mixed in, then his last three seasons went 8-8, 5-3-1 (strike season), and 8-8.

Making the playoffs would have been highly debatable. Forrest Gregg, his replacement, who had taken Cincinnati to the Superbowl two years prior couldn't do better than 8-8 his first two years leading the team (before dipping to 4-12 and 5-9-1 and resigning).

"nerdmann" wrote:




Gregg was abysmal. Lynn Dickey has some choice things to say about Gregg.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
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