British
15 years ago
Should our President have kept his mouth shut?

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Diner-morning-news-Quinn-needs-playing-time.html 

Rob Demovsky of the Green Bay Press-Gazette reports that Packers president Mark Murphy said Monday hes disappointed with the teams 4-4 start, especially Sundays shocking loss at Tampa Bay, and wants to make sure changes are made. The former NFL player turned executive, who took over the Packers in January 2008, believes the season can be salvaged. He also may have put head coach Mike McCarthy on notice. Were 4-4 halfway through the season, Murphy said, and I think we can still have a successful year just making sure that we make the changes that are necessary to get us to that point.

I thought the job of the Packers president was to be seen and not heard. I dont remember former Packers president Bob Harlan ever speaking about the football team directly to the media. I might be wrong, and all loyal Packers readers are welcome to correct me, but from my vantage point, the team president doesnt have to state the obvious. Mark Murphy appears that he wants to be more involved in the football part of the program as the new president. Anyone other than the head coach talking to the media can send the wrong message to the fan base as evidenced by Murphys comments.

What changes would Murph like the Packers to make? Does he really understand the problems? I highly doubt it, and the way to create bad blood in an organization is to say something that makes no sense when you have no idea what youre saying. Im fairly confident that the Packers coaches are cynical about these comments.

There was a reason Bob Harlan never addressed football issues during the season.


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longtimefan
15 years ago
Word is starting to trickle out that the executive board is now dipping their hands in to the football pool side..In years past they NEVER did...

Like say who to cut and who to keep...Who to hire to defend the Packers...

Non meddling board = Packers winning

Board that wants to meddle = Packers losing?
PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
I think yes, it is to the point where he needed to say something. It is not just McCarthy, Thompson who have jobs that depend on how the team does.

Murphy would be considered the Owner if GB was a normal owned team. Only unlike an owner, Murphy can be canned.

Maybe we will be lucky and McCarthy will listen and turn things around, or the team will get the picture and play better to save McCarthy from himself.
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buckeyepackfan
15 years ago
Harlan took over The Packers in 1991, The Packer organization as a whole was not a "winner".

Harlans job, IMHO, was to build a winning organization where there had not been on for over 2 decades.

He hired Ron Wolf, and Wolf did his thing and(making a long story short) The Packer organization turned into a winner once again.

My point is Harlan's situation was completely different, he didn't have to be vocal, because the team was succesful.

Murphy's tenure hasn't been one of winning and for him to say he is not happy, IMHO is not a problem.

Someone has to hold these guys accountable for their failures, if Murphy doesn't, then he just might be the guy that gets the axe if this year turns out bad.
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15 years ago
somebody needed to say something
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

somebody needed to say something

"cheeseheads123" wrote:



That's actually a pretty decent point.

Like WhiskeySam stated in the draft thread, Wolf would give entire press conferences and what not and said what he felt was happening. And he acted swiftly.

Thompson and McCarthy, on the other hand, talk a whole lot, but never actually say anything. I think that this is the most concrete thing we've heared out of a Packers staff members so far.

And no, I'm not hating, I like TT.
mi_keys
15 years ago
I have no problem with him saying something. It's not like he tipped his hand on what he's planning to do, he just said the performance has to be better. There's nothing atypical about that. I don't even think it means the board is meddling, because I've heard nothing of the sort. In fact, if anything I've heard McCarthy was having a higher role in personnel decisions (such as with Anthony Smith). If things don't improve the board, and Mark Murphy should be thinking about what staff changes need to be made, if any.
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nerdmann
15 years ago
Yeah, the fans were way too pissed off, and rightfully so. The coach got the dreaded word of approval by the team president. Never a good thing.
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15 years ago

Someone has to hold these guys accountable for their failures

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:




this.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


warhawk
15 years ago

Harlan took over The Packers in 1991, The Packer organization as a whole was not a "winner".

Harlans job, IMHO, was to build a winning organization where there had not been on for over 2 decades.

He hired Ron Wolf, and Wolf did his thing and(making a long story short) The Packer organization turned into a winner once again.

My point is Harlan's situation was completely different, he didn't have to be vocal, because the team was succesful.

Murphy's tenure hasn't been one of winning and for him to say he is not happy, IMHO is not a problem.

Someone has to hold these guys accountable for their failures, if Murphy doesn't, then he just might be the guy that gets the axe if this year turns out bad.

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:



I don't like asking questions when I don't know the answer but without looking it up how many years was it from the time Wolf came in until the team was a bonafide winner?
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