nerdmann
15 years ago

Another thing to add, the Packers are fourth in the NFL in yards allowed/game at 282.9, fourth in picks at 12, and in a 3 way tie for 11th in fumbles recovered on defense at 6.

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Yeah, the Bucs only had ONE long drive in that game. This ain't on the defense.
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djcubez
15 years ago

Another thing to add, the Packers are fourth in the NFL in yards allowed/game at 282.9, fourth in picks at 12, and in a 3 way tie for 11th in fumbles recovered on defense at 6.

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Yeah, the Bucs only had ONE long drive in that game. This ain't on the defense.

"Porforis" wrote:


The Bucs had two drives over 20 yards. TWO! One was 72 and the other was 53.

EDIT: Sorry it sounded like I was criticizing you. I'm actually agreeing with you despite the tone lol.
porky88
15 years ago
Great defenses find away to make stops even with their back up against a wall. The defense is better, but it could be playing at an even higher level. Dom Capers fits right into the stubborn mold of the McCarthy/Thompson regime. He refuses to play to the player's strengths. I think the 3-4 defense is great when the Packers have the right players to do it, but right now they don't. Not on a full-time base at least.

Mix it up. Run a little 4-3 so you can create more opportunities for Aaron Kampman to get after the QB. If the opposition runs 50 plays a game, Kampman should rush between 40-45 times a game. Right now, he's rushing between 25-35 times a game. That's unacceptable and not fair to Aaron Kampman.
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15 years ago



Mix it up. Run a little 4-3 so you can create more opportunities for Aaron Kampman to get after the QB. If the opposition runs 50 plays a game, Kampman should rush between 40-45 times a game. Right now, he's rushing between 25-35 times a game. That's unacceptable and not fair to Aaron Kampman.

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djcubez
15 years ago
More on the 3-4

The Patriots second-year linebacker missed three games after suffering a knee injury in the season opener, and even after making a game-high 12 tackles against the Dolphins on Sunday, he wasnt yet ready to proclaim himself 100 percent healthy. The kid has nonetheless made a huge impact, however: Quietly, Bill Belichick transitioned from his staple 3-4 scheme to a hybrid one with a 4-3 emphasis over the offseason never mind that he hasnt bothered to announce this publicly because he realized that Mayo, a pure middle linebacker, is already New Englands second-most important player. As Ray Lewis(notes) and Brian Urlacher(notes) complete the latter stages of their brilliant careers, Mayo and the Niners Patrick Willis(notes) are the heirs to their legacies as the games most feared monsters in the middle. If Mayo can stay healthy for the rest of 09, hell have a chance to complement Brady the way Freeney does Manning, and make the Pats a championship contender.



Belichick has done what Capers and McCarthy have failed to do. He's using his players on defense the way they should be utilized and building the scheme around their talents instead of just plugging players into roles they don't fit (i.e., kampman, woodson, harris).
nerdmann
15 years ago

More on the 3-4

The Patriots second-year linebacker missed three games after suffering a knee injury in the season opener, and even after making a game-high 12 tackles against the Dolphins on Sunday, he wasnt yet ready to proclaim himself 100 percent healthy. The kid has nonetheless made a huge impact, however: Quietly, Bill Belichick transitioned from his staple 3-4 scheme to a hybrid one with a 4-3 emphasis over the offseason never mind that he hasnt bothered to announce this publicly because he realized that Mayo, a pure middle linebacker, is already New Englands second-most important player. As Ray Lewis(notes) and Brian Urlacher(notes) complete the latter stages of their brilliant careers, Mayo and the Niners Patrick Willis(notes) are the heirs to their legacies as the games most feared monsters in the middle. If Mayo can stay healthy for the rest of 09, hell have a chance to complement Brady the way Freeney does Manning, and make the Pats a championship contender.

"djcubez" wrote:



Belichick has done what Capers and McCarthy have failed to do. He's using his players on defense the way they should be utilized and building the scheme around their talents instead of just plugging players into roles they don't fit (i.e., kampman, woodson, harris).




If the offense was playing as well as the defense, we would be undefeated. Well, maybe a loss due to the shitty special teams.
I have no problem whatsoever with the defense.
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azrunning
15 years ago
Of TB's 38 points 7 were a blocked punt, 14 from two INTs and 7 from kick return to 10 or so. D has it's problems but it didn't lose the game against TB.
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ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago
Sorry, I'm not buying it. The D can improve, but they're not bad, and they're certainly not the problem.

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Maybe I just need to avoid this plce for a couple weeks. The constant negativity is going to ruin football for me.
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mi_keys
15 years ago

More on the 3-4

The Patriots second-year linebacker missed three games after suffering a knee injury in the season opener, and even after making a game-high 12 tackles against the Dolphins on Sunday, he wasnt yet ready to proclaim himself 100 percent healthy. The kid has nonetheless made a huge impact, however: Quietly, Bill Belichick transitioned from his staple 3-4 scheme to a hybrid one with a 4-3 emphasis over the offseason never mind that he hasnt bothered to announce this publicly because he realized that Mayo, a pure middle linebacker, is already New Englands second-most important player. As Ray Lewis(notes) and Brian Urlacher(notes) complete the latter stages of their brilliant careers, Mayo and the Niners Patrick Willis(notes) are the heirs to their legacies as the games most feared monsters in the middle. If Mayo can stay healthy for the rest of 09, hell have a chance to complement Brady the way Freeney does Manning, and make the Pats a championship contender.

"nerdmann" wrote:



Belichick has done what Capers and McCarthy have failed to do. He's using his players on defense the way they should be utilized and building the scheme around their talents instead of just plugging players into roles they don't fit (i.e., kampman, woodson, harris).

"djcubez" wrote:




If the offense was playing as well as the defense, we would be undefeated. Well, maybe a loss due to the shitty special teams.
I have no problem whatsoever with the defense.



Both the offense and the defense probably share an equal amount of the blame. With the exception of the Tampa game the offense really hasn't been putting the defense in bad positions. The special teams has been the worst of all units because the offense and the defense have made plays happen in addition to their fuck ups, special teams haven't. The defense was given a 28-17 lead in the fourth quarter and yeah the Bucs got a good return to get back into field position but they could have held them to a field goal and they didn't. They then let the Bucs march down the field to take the lead. Got fucked over on a bad call but you know they did in week 1 against chicago and the team rallied. The d could have held on 4th down instead of giving up the score, the offense could have come back to retake the lead. The letdowns are on all sides of the ball.

It comes down to consistency. If can get some fucking discipline and consistency we are a damn good team. You can see that by spurts in which we've dominated the Vikings or embarrassed the shitty teams of the league. The problem is we've also shot ourselves in the foot and in games against the Vikings or Cincinnatti or Tampa they made us pay for them.
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