macbob
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15 years ago

Watching a Mike McCarthy press conference always brings out my emotional side. The chuckles, the sneers, the jaw-drops, the yelling, the abusing of my computer monitor. Good thing I don't work in an office full of people.

I am often left wondering, does McCarthy really believe the s**t he drops on us every week? Does he get a kick out of insulting beat reporters and fans with the same empty promises and catch-phrases? After this Tampa debacle, a real coach would have just come out and said: We stunk today - players, coaches, collectively we were horses**t. I promise you it will NOT happen again as long as I am coach of this team.

Instead, what was heard was the Mike Milquetoast show. A few examples:

QUOTE: "We have four individuals on our offensive staff that I'd be very confident in coaching the offensive line... I think Shawn Slocum has done a good job in putting his print on what we're trying to do... But our problems to me aren't teaching and scheme; they do not fall in that area."

MY COMMENT: Yet every week, the Packers are hurt by self-inflicted wounds. Missed assignments, mis-communications, bad decisions, penalties, etc. And he thinks the coaches have all done a good job. So is Coach McCarthy saying the players are too dumb to execute what they are taught? Or is he saying he's coached them perfectly and they're just not good enough?

QUOTE: "We don't need wholesale change. We may need to adjust some things and that will be our focus. ...I'm very confident in the issues that we've had in pass protection, that they are correctable."

MY COMMENT: Half the season is gone. NOW the coach thinks he MAY need to adjust some things? There goes another clump of my hair... It's also heartening to hear that the pass protection issues are correctable. Whew! That's a relief. I'll just wait here patiently...

QUOTE: "If there was an error that was made leading up to this game it was probably too much work this week."

MY COMMENT: Earlier in the season, Coach McCarthy was called out for possibly not keeping the players focused in practice. Now he thinks he may be working them too hard? So basically, he doesn't know how to run a practice correctly and efficiently.

Here's what Packers great Leroy Butler had to say about this: "The guys werent in full pads all week, so its hard to overwork a group thats not in pads. If they were in pads Wednesday and Thursday, I could see him overworking them where theyre tired... But if you have the youngest team in the league, they need to be overworked every day because youre seeing the same mistakes. If he did overwork them, then theyre not working on the stuff that needs to be worked on." How great is that?

QUOTE: "There is structure. To have a new message or a new messenger, I'm confident that's not what our football team needs right now. They have a very loud, direct, clear message in the team meetings day in and day out. So there is no question or uncertainty of what we are asking everybody to do, coaches and players, and the accountability of what needs to be done."

MY COMMENT: I think Coach McCarthy is not being honest with himself. What is the message? That if we make mistakes, we'll "fix'em" next practice? Where is the accountability? One more quote from Leroy Butler: "But he needs to be more of a dad than a friend to these guys. Your dad disciplines you, but also loves you. Your friend tells you what you want to hear even when youre playing bad."

SUMMARY:
Mike McCarthy is failing in many aspects of his job. Mostly, he seems to accept mediocrity while regurgitating the same old excuses and empty promises. He has proven to be a poor leader of men and his game-day decision making incites more questions than answers. His post-game press conferences ostensibly do the same.

Mike McCarthy has 3 1/2 years left on his contract that pays him approximately $4,000,000 per year. Despite the widespread clamoring, McCarthy is not likely to be fired during the season. It would also take a monumental failure during the second half of this year for the Packers to eat the final three years of that contract. It's not something the Packers will want to do, and I'm sure Mike will tell his bosses the same s**t we are hearing: It's correctable...

"Jersey Al Bracco" wrote:



http://bleacherreport.com/articles/287545-green-bay-packers-coach-mike-mccarthy-said-what 

+1 to JAB
RaiderPride
15 years ago
I am still on board.

I have confidence Mike will turn this around.

That will all change on Sunday though if we see the same thing back at home. This is his last chance with me.
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
all_about_da_packers
15 years ago
I don't remember when MM was called out for not having his players focus hard enough in practice.....
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macbob
  • macbob
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15 years ago

I am still on board.

I have confidence Mike will turn this around.

That will all change on Sunday though if we see the same thing back at home. This is his last chance with me.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



I was onboard until the Tampa game, and with the response after the game I just no longer have any confidence that McCarthy can turn it around.

He's got until the end of the season--if you change in the middle of the season either you bring in someone who's comfortable with the current scheme or you've got someone who's going to be running a scheme they don't want to run, because you will have limited ability to switch schemes in midseason. But he's lost me.

Man, I just hope he doesn't overwork the guys going into the Cowboys game, too... :xcensoredx:
macbob
  • macbob
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15 years ago

I don't remember when Mike McCarthy was called out for not having his players focus hard enough in practice.....

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



It was a comment Rodgers made about their practices the week preceding a loss not being what they needed to be. It may have been after the Cincinnati game.
nerdmann
15 years ago
The two humiliating ass spankings by the Queens turned me off. If we lost, but played well, it would have been different. But it's like MM really just threw his jock out there and handed them the game. Like he didn't even try.
Then the Tampa game? Please.
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15 years ago
i officially hate the Packers for the next 3 1/2 years.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


RaiderPride
15 years ago
Question:

There were no forums back then, so a Packer Fan has to tell me.

How the hell did Bart Star last 9 years as coach. He won what perhaps 5o something games and had about 80 losses.

Seems to me Mike deserves a little longer. The team is 500.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
There's more avenues to build a team quicker now than there was 40 years ago. The flip side to that is, it's harder to maintain a dynasty now than 40 years ago.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

Question:

There were no forums back then, so a Packer Fan has to tell me.

How the hell did Bart Star last 9 years as coach. He won what perhaps 5o something games and had about 80 losses.

Seems to me Mike deserves a little longer. The team is 500.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



It where different times. Less impatient, that's for sure. No FA, you really only build through the draft. It wasn't possible to even judge him before 5 years or something, I think. And then, lastly, he was a Packers legend. How on earth can you just fire a Packers legend?

I don't know if it's fair to fire Mike right now, but it's just frustratingly hard to keep confidence in him. He doesn't say anything, doesn't appear to do anything, doesn't appear to change anything and that is just what we're seeing on the field at this point.

Maybe it's not fair, but hey, we're fans. We can do stuff like this.
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