Zero2Cool
15 years ago
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Aaron Rodgers of the Green Bay Packers is hitting his first dog days as a starting quarterback in the NFL.[img_r]http://images.dailyradar.com/media/uploads/ballhype/photos_large/2008/09/29/Aaron_Rodgers.jpg[/img_r]

His season suddenly is on the line after a loss in the Packers' biggest rivalry game of the season (to Minnesota in Brett Favres return to Lambeau Field) followed by a stunning defeat to previously winless Tampa Bay.

Quarterbacks are judged first by their records, and Rodgers is 4-4 halfway through the season. As importantly, although hes a highly ranked passer (No. 5 at 103.3 points), he shares responsibility for the Packers biggest shortcoming on offense, namely their league-worst 37 sacks allowed.

So both inside and outside the Packers organization, Rodgers is the subject of often harsh scrutiny, including complaints that are sometimes contradictory: Hes holding the ball too long and trying to make too many plays downfield; or hes playing too much by the book and not taking enough chances.

This is a welcome-to-the-NFL moment, something every NFL starting quarterback goes through often several times during their careers.

How will the 25-year-old Rodgers emerge? That depends on his temperament, mental toughness and ability to learn. The best come through it better than before.

Rodgers escaped that type of criticism last season, his first as a starter. His sound play in the face of difficult circumstances succeeding the future Hall of Famer Favre kept critics at bay. The only disapproval of note was based on Rodgers' failure to pull out a come-from-behind win in the final 5 minutes of any games.

But this season, as the sacks have piled up, so has the heat.

After showing no obvious problems last year, Rodgers has shown a tendency to hold the ball too long. For all the responsibility that lies with the disastrous offensive line, the ball ultimately is in Rodgers hands.

Whatever red flags that might raise, we dont know how Rodgers will or wont adjust in the second half of the season or how hell pan out, though scouts still have a high opinion of him. Anybody dismissing him now is making a classic rush to judgment, considering the skills hes displayed to date.

Just think back to Favre, before he was a future Hall of Famer.

He hit the halfway point of 1993, his second season as a starter, with a 4-4 record and more interceptions (13) than touchdown passes (11). Was he too wild to ever be consistently good?

Even as late as a year later, in Week 8 of 1994, coach Mike Holmgren broached the idea of benching Favre in favor of Mark Brunell after Brunell had played well when Favre sprained his ankle in a loss at Minnesota. Holmgren stuck with Favre, but he was concerned enough to raise the question and then had several assistant coaches argue in favor of sitting the young gunslinger.

The quarterback the Packers face this week, Tony Romo, has had as many ups and downs as any starter who has kept his job over the past 2 seasons.

Hes 0-2 in playoff games, including a crushing upset loss to the New York Giants in the divisional round of the playoffs in 2007, when the Cowboys had the best record in the NFC. Last season, he threw seven interceptions over the last four games in a 1-3 meltdown that kept the Cowboys out of the playoffs. Early this season, the 29-year old showed bad judgment in throwing three interceptions in a big Week 2 loss to the Giants.

Until Romo wins a Super Bowl, hell have critics questioning his ability to tame his gunslinger instincts and win big games. Yet, with the Cowboys at 6-2 and on a four-game winning streak, he might rate in the top 10 quarterbacks in the league, depending on the scout.

In the NFC, hes playing like top five right now, said a scout for an NFC team. Id say overall NFL, hes probably in the top eight. I think hes better than Rodgers.

Another scout said: Id say just outside of top 10. I dont see him as an elite quarterback. I wouldnt put him in the category of (Peyton) Manning, (Tom) Brady, (Ben) Roethlisberger, Cincinnatis guy, (Carson) Palmer, I wouldnt put him in that. Drew Brees, Donovan McNabb and you could probably keep listing a few. Hes not in their category. And you could put (Rodgers) is a better quarterback than that.

Even the great Peyton Manning had his big-game critics, stemming all the way back to college, until he finally won the Super Bowl. About the only quarterback in recent memory who seems to have escaped baptism by hard times is New Englands Tom Brady, who won the Super Bowl in three of his first four years as a starter.

So, Rodgers has hit a rough time, and it wont be the last. The question isnt as much how he got there, but how he comes back.


UserPostedImage
15 years ago
If he can bounce back like he did last year after the bucs game that would be awesome. Minus the late interception in the 4th quarter he had a very nice game against the falcons.
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nerdmann
15 years ago
Just get the ball out. Short passes. WCO.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
azrunning
15 years ago
+1
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Scottish_Packer
15 years ago
McCarthy's going to have to come up with something solid against the Cowboys. It's a fact that we're going to give up 5+ sacks in this game if we continue to look for the long ball.
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Zero2Cool (38m) : Merry Christmas!
beast (9h) : Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
beast (17h) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game
packerfanoutwest (22h) : both games Watson missed, Packers won
Martha Careful (23h) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
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