djcubez
15 years ago
+1 to a lot of posters in this thread, great detail.

I played a very little bit of football in my life all at offensive line and I must say coming from a 3-point stance is entirely different from standing up. It's all about gravity.

What a 3 point stance does is give you built up momentum to spring from. It's like the looney toons animal trap--a box leaning on a stick with a string attached. Once the string is pulled, the stick is removed from underneath the box leaving the box with nothing to lean on. The box falls immediately to the ground. The 3 points stance allows you to use your arm (the stick) to hold up your weight and body (the box) against gravity. Once the ball is snapped you remove your arm (like pulling the string) and you fall toward the ground. But instead of falling you use that momentum to propel yourself forward into your opponent. At least that's the best way I can explain it haha.

I also think it's too early to judge whether Kampman has been a success in his new position. He hasn't seemed to blow many plays in pass coverage, although I admit I may be wrong, and we haven't generated a pass rush in most of our games this season. If we start getting more pressure and sacks as a team I think Kampman's production will perceptively have changed because of the change in statistics.
zombieslayer
15 years ago

No offense but whoever thought that Kamp would actually be an ideal 3-4 lb must of been delusional. Let's all be serious, you can't really expect grabbing a player from his natural position in which he was probably top 10 and move him to another position and expect him to perform top 10 in that position. It's like teaching an old dog new tricks. Kampman should of been traded the second this team went to the 3-4 decision. No disrespect to him but it would of been better for Kampman and the Packers. He could of really made something out of his talent and aim for a big contract if he was in a 4-3 team. This 3-4 defense really killed his contract year and probably dropped his stock a little.

I'm probably more angry about him not getting his contract that he deserves then actually him not performing this year. Why would you kill someone's talent just cause your switching to a new scheme in the defense. Send the guy off to another team and give him his rights and a chance to perform in his natural spot.

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Well, I was one of those people who thought Kampy could adjust to a 3-4. Guess I was wrong. 🤔

Yeah, I'd be happy for Kampy if he ended up on a team that could utitlize him properly. Only wish we got something really good for him in return though. We'll see if it happens or not soon enough.
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shield4life
15 years ago
What if we do end up trading him before the deadline. You think it would be a good move by the organization for the locker room?

Kampman has been around for years now how do you guys think the team would react?
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

What if we do end up trading him before the deadline. You think it would be a good move by the organization for the locker room?

Kampman has been around for years now how do you guys think the team would react?

"shield4life" wrote:



Like proffesionals? I certainly hope that they understand that you're going with the best players, not the nicest ones. Same as with Ruvell, really.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
We're too young of a team to get rid of veterans likes Kampman. They need someone to set the example for them. Another reason I think adding vets helps, an keeping Harris and Woodson is important.
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